CJPearl2 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2778174 I know we have speculated about this for the past month or so, but it seems legit now. Look for RB with first or second round pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBills12 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Great, so much for my WM throw back jersey..... Wow, this new administration is showing some powerful discipline in finding the right players for its system..... I hope we get a good RB in this draft if WM is indeed gone..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Marshawn Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 The Giants are one of the interested teams but won't part with a first day pick. http://blogs.nydailynews.com/giants/archiv..._on_mcgahee.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Marshawn Lynch Never happen with Marv as GM because of his character issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual RB way to go Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 There is some team that would be willing to pay a 1st rounder or at the very least a 2nd rounder. If we don't get that then we are in a worse case scenario because we are going to need 2 RBs and no where to get them from with a 3rd or later pick. But willis isn't worth a 1st rounder you say? Not true. For many of us yes, but for some teams he's an attractive option. Willis is cap friendly right now. No major hit for any team that wants an experienced RB. The team can see how he responds to his contract year on the field and then roll the dice on him. No commitment! Indy RB Rhodes was mainly a setup guy for adai in the red zone; don't know what he would be like for the full load. Wouldn't want tpo pay that much money to find out. Add to the fact willis had had national exposure, has the OL and QB as scapegoats, and can give a team like the giants instant credability to assess their team (QB & GM), he has alot of value for the right team. Someone will pay a 1st rounder for him. But who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 There is some team that would be willing to pay a 1st rounder or at the very least a 2nd rounder. If we don't get that then we are in a worse case scenario because we are going to need 2 RBs and no where to get them from with a 3rd or later pick. But willis isn't worth a 1st rounder you say? Not true. For many of us yes, but for some teams he's an attractive option. Willis is cap friendly right now. No major hit for any team that wants an experienced RB. The team can see how he responds to his contract year on the field and then roll the dice on him. No commitment! Indy RB Rhodes was mainly a setup guy for adai in the red zone; don't know what he would be like for the full load. Wouldn't want tpo pay that much money to find out. Add to the fact willis had had national exposure, has the OL and QB as scapegoats, and can give a team like the giants instant credability to assess their team (QB & GM), he has alot of value for the right team. Someone will pay a 1st rounder for him. But who? The Bills would be very lucky to get a second round pick for Willis! A first round pick is out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 The Giants are one of the interested teams but won't part with a first day pick. http://blogs.nydailynews.com/giants/archiv..._on_mcgahee.php I read that too. Marv should just lay it out there like Reese did and exactly state the minimum of what he expects in return for trading McGahee. That way it squashes all insulting offers like Reese's "second day" pieces. McGahee's ours until someone throws down a "legit" offer. Otherwise it's a waste of time even talking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Passthepotatoes is just a shill for TD and knows nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 On second thought, make it a "conditional" 2008 fourth round pick. Conditions being: If he has more carries than Jacobs it becomes a third. If he gets over 1000 it becomes a second. If he gets over 1500 it becomes a first. I'd take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual RB way to go Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 The Giants are one of the interested teams but won't part with a first day pick. http://blogs.nydailynews.com/giants/archiv..._on_mcgahee.php Tom will not take his giants next season with a rookie or unproven RB. The NY media will eat him alive. As for the "won't part with 1st day picks", thats just posturing on their part. They want to get him as for little as possible. They will pay someone for a RB. Willis is there best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 The only thing going for Buffalo is that the Free Agent crop this year is weak. Ahman Green is probably the best available and he intends to try the market in the hopes GB gives him more money. Peterson and Lynch are options, but they'll be gone before the Giants pick. Unless of course they move up. Michael Turner is an RFA, and depending on which tag the Chargers give him, his tender will be quite high. Most likely compensation means a 1st, if not a 1st and a 3rd. I don't think the Giants would do that. McGahee has no leverage in this situation. He's under contract. But if Travis Henry got us a 3rd, I can't imagine Willis will garner us anything higher than that. But by making a move like this, we've opened another hole to fill because we've traded a likely starter for a pick that most likely won't start. I can live with 21 for this season and see what happens. He needs to prove to the front office that he plays as good a game as he talks. Then, if he plays well and shows something, re-sign him. But dealing him for a mid-rounder might not be worth it. Especially if Buffalo "is on the verge" of doing something in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 As for the "won't part with 1st day picks", thats just posturing on their part. They want to get him as for little as possible. They will pay someone for a RB. Willis is there best choice. Yep. Those words mean nothing. If the Giants can't trade for someone else they would give up a 2nd rounder for Willis in a heartbeat. And Willis will have a better 2007 than whoever is picked in that slot (and probably better 2007 than who they would pick at #20). They are a team that has to value 2007 contribution more than 2008+. We are a team that can accept a slight downgrade in 2007 value (not much) for increased value beyond 2007. This is a good fit in both directions if we decide to move him, the question is what compensation would be fair for both teams meeting in the middle, or if one team gets the better of the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Never happen with Marv as GM because of his character issues. What character issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Git'er Done Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 There is some team that would be willing to pay a 1st rounder or at the very least a 2nd rounder. If we don't get that then we are in a worse case scenario because we are going to need 2 RBs and no where to get them from with a 3rd or later pick. But willis isn't worth a 1st rounder you say? Not true. For many of us yes, but for some teams he's an attractive option. Willis is cap friendly right now. No major hit for any team that wants an experienced RB. The team can see how he responds to his contract year on the field and then roll the dice on him. No commitment! Indy RB Rhodes was mainly a setup guy for adai in the red zone; don't know what he would be like for the full load. Wouldn't want tpo pay that much money to find out. Add to the fact willis had had national exposure, has the OL and QB as scapegoats, and can give a team like the giants instant credability to assess their team (QB & GM), he has alot of value for the right team. Someone will pay a 1st rounder for him. But who? Please, no more Dominic RHodes talk, he isn't as good as Willis, he isn't a number 1 back. Remember Zack Crockett, he's Zack Crockett II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 What character issues? I heard he clubs baby seals just for the fun it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 It's a ballsy move on our part. Willis pretty much has to be traded now. Drew Rosenhaus will be spouting off all over the place if it comes to training camp and Willis is still in Buffalo without a contract extension. Plus, we really don't have a starter on the team right now if Willis is gone. Although, first two rounds of the draft look pretty good for RB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Why would someone pay a first round pick for a RB? I have been avoiding doing this due to the length it will take, but lets run through the teams Miami - Ronnie Brown (Ricky Williams?) Buffalo - WM NYJ - Open Patriots - Maroney (Dillon) Steelers - Willie Parker Ravens - Jamal Lewis Bengals - Rudi Browns - Open (Droghns) Indianapolis - Addai (Rhodes) Houston - Open (Dayne) (Lundy) Jacksonville - Jones-Drew (Fred Taylor) Tennessee - Open (Henry) (Chris Brown) Denver - Mike Bell (Tatum Bell) Kansas City - Larry Johnson Oakland - Lamont Jordan San Diego - LT (Turner) Dallas - Julius Jones (Barber) Giants - Open (Jacobs) Eagles - Westbrook (Buckhalter) Washington - Portis (Betts) (Duckett) Chicago - Thomas Jones (Benson) Detroit - Kevin Jones Green Bay - Open (A. Green) Minnesota - Chester Taylor Atlanta - Dunn (Norwood) Carolina - D. Williams (D. Foster) New Orleans - R. Bush (Deuce) Tampa Bay - C. Williams Arizona - Edggarin James San Fran - Frank Gore Seattle - Alexander (Morris) St. Louis - Steven Jackson So, tell me, WHERE can McGahee go? 1) NYJ. No Chance. Not in division 2) Cleveland 3) Houston 4) Tennessee (if Henry leaves) 5) NY Giants 6) Green Bay Thats it. Six teams need a running back. Maybe throw in Tampa Bay, Denver, Dallas and Detroit. But for now, lets leave them out of it, and assume they will stick with Caddilac, The Bells, JuliusJones/Barber and Kevin Jones. To fill those six slots, here are the choices 1) Marshawn Lynch 2) Adrian Peterson 3) Michael Bush 4) Kenny Irons 5) Travis Henry 6) Corey Dillon (If he doesnt retire) 7) Ahman Green 8) Corell Buckhalter 9) Ladell Betts 10) Dominick Rhodes 11) Micheal Turner 12) Kevin Barlow 13) Reuben Droghns 14) Fred Taylor 15) Thomas Jones (If Chicago puts him on the market and goes with Benson) Tell me, how much better is Willis McGahee (honestly) than most of those guys on the list? Might be a little better than some, but most on the above list come FREE. Dominick Rhodes (for no pick) or Willis (for a pick)? A first rounder folks, is unrealistic. Love it. Want it to happen. I'll eat the paper I wote this on if it happens. I just think its a waste of time discussing it. Because, realistically, it aint happenin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Call me crazy, but what about trading Willis, picking up a RB early in the draft, and using Corey Dillon as a short term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Git'er Done Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 It's a ballsy move on our part. Willis pretty much has to be traded now. Drew Rosenhaus will be spouting off all over the place if it comes to training camp and Willis is still in Buffalo without a contract extension. Plus, we really don't have a starter on the team right now if Willis is gone. Although, first two rounds of the draft look pretty good for RB's. Drew Rosenhaus has many clients, I expect him to be busy with more important players (guys he can make more money off than Willis). The guys getting drafted right now are gonna put alot more change in his pocket (Big bonus money) than Willis will renegoitiating. There may be some bluster by Rosenhaus, just to see if he can rattle the Bills, but he won't waste alot of time with a holdout and such. In fact, if Willis indeed wants to leave (I think this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion, I actually think the Bills are more interested in getting a new back than Willis is in leaving), and things don't get resolved quickly, I could see Willis getting a new agent. The Bills aren't getting a 1st rounder for Willis, that's dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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