Tux of Borg Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 My Webpage Reports Say Duke Rape Accuser Is Pregnant By DAVID SCOTT, AP RALEIGH, N.C. (Dec. 15) -- The woman at the center of the Duke lacrosse rape case is pregnant and due to give birth any day, roughly nine months after the team party where she says she was raped by three men in a bathroom. The pregnancy was confirmed late Thursday by a person familiar with the case, speaking to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. Both Fox News and WRAL-TV in Raleigh reported she gave birth Thursday night. There had been no prior indication the woman, a 28-year-old college student who already has children, was even pregnant. She has not spoken in public since granting a single interview to the News & Observer of Raleigh shortly after the party. The person who confirmed the pregnancy to the AP had no information about the father. Defense attorneys have stressed for months that no sex occurred at the party and they have cited DNA testing that found genetic material from several males in the accuser's body and her underwear - but none from any member of the lacrosse team. Calls to attorneys representing the three indicted players were not returned Thursday night, as were calls and messages left with District Attorney Mike Nifong. Medical records included in a defense motion filed Thursday were not made public. It wasn't clear whether a pregnancy test was taken immediately after the party. The development came just hours after defense attorneys file a motion saying the woman misidentified her alleged attackers in a photo lineup that was "an incoherent mass of contradiction and error." The attorneys asked a judge to bar prosecutors from using the photo lineup at their clients' trial and prevent the accuser from identifying the players from the witness stand. Duke University law professor James E. Coleman Jr. said the case would be "effectively dismissed" if the court finds the lineup inadmissible "and rules that it is so suggestive that there can't be an in-court identification." Within Thursday's motion, the defense highlighted what it considers numerous holes in the accuser's story. Among the details cited are examples of how the accuser's story changed in the hours and days after the party; that she has a history of bipolar disorder; that she identified two people as having attended the party who were not there; and that she identified four attackers during the April photo lineup. An earlier defense motion argued the lineup was "unnecessarily suggestive" because the accuser was shown only photos of lacrosse players. Thursday's motion adds details about efforts by police investigators and Nifong to assist the accuser in identifying the three men she said gang-raped her in a bathroom at a March 13 team party where she had been hired to perform as a stripper. Based in part on those identifications, Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans were indicted on charges of rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. All three players have insisted they are innocent. Investigators conducted three photo lineups, according to the defense motion. In the first two, the accuser failed to identify Evans and did not identify Seligmann as an attacker, despite being shown photos of both men. Defense lawyers argue that the third lineup, conducted April 4 at the Durham Police Department, violated departmental policies and the defendants' constitutional due process rights because it included only pictures of those at the party. A hearing is scheduled Friday, but it is unclear whether the defense might argue their motions filed Wednesday and Thursday. The hearing had been expected mostly to deal with scheduling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic Guilt Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 This is really turning into a circus. Nifong needs to end up in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 This is really turning into a circus. Nifong needs to end up in jail. 867759[/snapback] They both do. I understand that throwing her in jail might discourage other vicitims of sexual assualt to not come forward. However, this is such an incredible case of liable/slander that she needs to be punished severely. Nifong is another story altogether. He has been negligent and should be removed from the bar and forced to be restitution (as well as the city of Duruhm) to the real victims, the three lax players. These kids lives have been ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 They both do. I understand that throwing her in jail might discourage other vicitims of sexual assualt to not come forward. However, this is such an incredible case of liable/slander that she needs to be punished severely. Nifong is another story altogether. He has been negligent and should be removed from the bar and forced to be restitution (as well as the city of Duruhm) to the real victims, the three lax players. These kids lives have been ruined. 867764[/snapback] It won't look like slander if a baby is born exactly nine months after that party at the same time of day will it? No one has disputed she was at the party during these times and if the baby is born then it will be proof she had sex while there. It won't prove which one of these kids is the dad, that'll take a DNA test, but it will prove it was one of the players or at least someone at the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 They both do. I understand that throwing her in jail might discourage other vicitims of sexual assualt to not come forward. However, this is such an incredible case of liable/slander that she needs to be punished severely. Nifong is another story altogether. He has been negligent and should be removed from the bar and forced to be restitution (as well as the city of Duruhm) to the real victims, the three lax players. These kids lives have been ruined. 867764[/snapback] Their lives have been ruined? How callous. This woman may never exotic dance again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Just heard on CNN that several DNA samples were taken off the victim right after the party and not a single one matched any of the accused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 It won't look like slander if a baby is born exactly nine months after that party at the same time of day will it? No one has disputed she was at the party during these times and if the baby is born then it will be proof she had sex while there. It won't prove which one of these kids is the dad, that'll take a DNA test, but it will prove it was one of the players or at least someone at the party. 867777[/snapback] Except that the only DNA match from the accuser's examination came from her boyfriend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Their lives have been ruined? How callous. This woman may never exotic dance again. 867779[/snapback] Pictures from the party. Judging by these photos that might not be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Except that the only DNA match from the accuser's examination came from her boyfriend... 867787[/snapback] I'm talking about the baby's DNA. The baby has not been born yet. Was her boyfriend at the party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 guy to girl "you know the difference between a hamburger and a blow-job? girl to guy "no" guy to girl "Wanna go to lunch?" I originally heard this as a conversation between two marines, but I'm trying to clean up my act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 guy to girl "you know the difference between a hamburger and a blow-job? girl to guy "no" guy to girl "Wanna go to lunch?" I originally heard this as a conversation between two marines, but I'm trying to clean up my act. 867813[/snapback] First Gypsies, now possible rape victims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 First Gypsies, now possible rape victims? 867816[/snapback] ohhhh....are they as subhuman as Canadians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 ohhhh....are they as subhuman as Canadians? 867820[/snapback] I pity Canadians, I don't hate them and never advocated killing them like you did with Gypsies. As for rape vicitims, all I can say is....why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 When on earth did i ever advocate killing gypsies? Don't understand what you are saying about rape victims. However I usually don't understand much of what you are saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 This is the most damning statement of the whole friggin travesty... Defense attorneys have stressed for months that no sex occurred at the party and they have cited DNA testing that found genetic material from several males in the accuser's body and her underwear — but none from any member of the lacrosse team. What a disgusting display of justice that these 3 lax kids have been dragged into this mess. Also, the friggin coach lost his job and the season was shot for the team. This is awful. Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Basically, in the hours & days leading up to the incident,,,, this girl banged everyone in Durham EXCEPT the Duke lacrosse players. unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I'm talking about the baby's DNA. The baby has not been born yet. Was her boyfriend at the party? 867794[/snapback] Obviously, you didn't bother clicking on the story link I provided, or you'd know the answer to that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Obviously, you didn't bother clicking on the story link I provided, or you'd know the answer to that question. 867907[/snapback] The article said nothing about the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Their lives have been ruined? While they have endured a rough time of it, I think their lives can return to a state of relative normalcy. Especially if they don't choose to live in that area. Their lives did take quite the sucky detour but I think they can resume fairly normal lives. I couldn't tell you who anybody was invloved in th incident and as time goes by more peple will be in my boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 It won't look like slander if a baby is born exactly nine months after that party at the same time of day will it? No one has disputed she was at the party during these times and if the baby is born then it will be proof she had sex while there. It won't prove which one of these kids is the dad, that'll take a DNA test, but it will prove it was one of the players or at least someone at the party. 867777[/snapback] Do you eat paint chips too? How will the baby being born 9 after the supposed rape prove a damn thing about where the baby was conceived? She could have been knocked up 3 days later for all you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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