nick in* england Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Aaron Schobel leads the NFL in sacks. London Fletcher is 3rd in the NFL in tackles (only 7 off 1st). JP Losman (12th in NFL passer rating) has a better rating than Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Matt Leinart and Michael Vick. Lee Evans is 8th of NFL recievers (5th AFC). Terence McGee is 4th in NFL KO return yard avg (despite missing time). Roscoe Parrish is 2nd in NFL punt return avg. Brian Moorman leads the NFL in avg net punt yardage. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Buffalo Bills have a league worst 189 first downs. Only Oakland and Tampa Bay have fewer offensive yards than the Buffalo Bills. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In 2004, after beating the NY Jets in week 14 to get their 6th win of the season, the Buffalo Bills lost all three remaining games (including losses against Miami and Tennessee) to finish 6-10 on the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Aaron Schobel leads the NFL in sacks. London Fletcher is 3rd in the NFL in tackles (only 7 off 1st). JP Losman (12th in NFL passer rating) has a better rating than Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Matt Leinart and Michael Vick. Lee Evans is 8th of NFL recievers (5th AFC). Terence McGee is 4th in NFL KO return yard avg (despite missing time). Roscoe Parrish is 2nd in NFL punt return avg. Brian Moorman leads the NFL in avg net punt yardage. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Buffalo Bills have a league worst 189 first downs. Only Oakland and Tampa Bay have fewer offensive yards than the Buffalo Bills. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In 2004, after beating the NY Jets in week 14 to get their 6th win of the season, the Buffalo Bills lost all three remaining games (including losses against Miami and Tennessee) to finish 6-10 on the year. 865285[/snapback] Well Merry Christmas to you too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 All good and well(and hopefully something to build on), but the only thing that matters is that the Bills are looking at a 7th season in a row of no playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 All good and well(and hopefully somethign to build on), but the only thing that matters is that the Bills are looking at a 7th season in a row of no playoffs. 865294[/snapback] That's the best thing to happen to the team. I mean, it must be if winning is a disaster. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilen Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 In 2004, after beating the NY Jets in week 14 to get their 6th win of the season, the Buffalo Bills lost all three remaining games (including losses against Miami and Tennessee) to finish 6-10 on the year. 865285[/snapback] That was 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Well that was a confusing post. Ran the gammit of emotions. Yeah we're good Yeah we're good Yeah we're good We suck We're doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Nick, Great data... but the year of 6-10 was 2003. RJ EDIT: I guess I should have read to the end of the thread first... oh well. Aaron Schobel leads the NFL in sacks. London Fletcher is 3rd in the NFL in tackles (only 7 off 1st). JP Losman (12th in NFL passer rating) has a better rating than Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Matt Leinart and Michael Vick. Lee Evans is 8th of NFL recievers (5th AFC). Terence McGee is 4th in NFL KO return yard avg (despite missing time). Roscoe Parrish is 2nd in NFL punt return avg. Brian Moorman leads the NFL in avg net punt yardage. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Buffalo Bills have a league worst 189 first downs. Only Oakland and Tampa Bay have fewer offensive yards than the Buffalo Bills. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In 2004, after beating the NY Jets in week 14 to get their 6th win of the season, the Buffalo Bills lost all three remaining games (including losses against Miami and Tennessee) to finish 6-10 on the year. 865285[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Well, you've given us the good and the bad but, curiously, end with a declaration of ominous portent. However, the postitive is much more portentous of the emerging Bills dynasty next season and well beyond - so portentous, in fact, that I must revise my intial prognostication and say... BuffTown Football Bills-- 37 Dick-less Sea Mammals- 0 GO BILLSSS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 The Buffalo Bills have a league worst 189 first downs. Only Oakland and Tampa Bay have fewer offensive yards than the Buffalo Bills. I think this has a lot to do with the Bills being TOO conservative. Think about the Indy game and how we marched down the field on the first drive of the game. We had 8 first downs on that drive alone. After that, we had 5 THE ENTIRE GAME. Why? Because we relied on the ball control style offense of running the ball. Even though our offense has been futile at times, I think we are seeing some improvement in areas (ie Losman and the OLine since the bye week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loadofmularkey Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Aaron Schobel leads the NFL in sacks. London Fletcher is 3rd in the NFL in tackles (only 7 off 1st). JP Losman (12th in NFL passer rating) has a better rating than Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Matt Leinart and Michael Vick. Lee Evans is 8th of NFL recievers (5th AFC). Terence McGee is 4th in NFL KO return yard avg (despite missing time). Roscoe Parrish is 2nd in NFL punt return avg. Brian Moorman leads the NFL in avg net punt yardage. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Buffalo Bills have a league worst 189 first downs. Only Oakland and Tampa Bay have fewer offensive yards than the Buffalo Bills. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In 2004, after beating the NY Jets in week 14 to get their 6th win of the season, the Buffalo Bills lost all three remaining games (including losses against Miami and Tennessee) to finish 6-10 on the year. 865285[/snapback] I think this pretty much summarized every single post that's ever been written on TSW during the past five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 BuffTown Football Bills-- 37 Dick-less Sea Mammals- 0 GO BILLSSS!!!! 865316[/snapback] I have a feeling that we will be veddy veddy happy on Sunday. I feel a whoopin coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 schobel is tied for first in sacks with merriman. (merriman missed 4 games due to a seroid suspention). Fletcher is having a spectacular season and should be in the probowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I think this has a lot to do with the Bills being TOO conservative. Think about the Indy game and how we marched down the field on the first drive of the game. We had 8 first downs on that drive alone. After that, we had 5 THE ENTIRE GAME. Why? Because we relied on the ball control style offense of running the ball. 865317[/snapback] It is a bit painful... But the team isn't a powerhouse yet, and have done the right thing...keeping most of their games close. Having a nearly even points for/against number is an impressive thing for a club that had a lot of question marks starting the season. I don't think the stronger opposing clubs are taking them for an easy win. Other than the handful of blow-outs that all teams suffer, they've managed to keep the fans hopeful in the second half in most games. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 It is a bit painful... But the team isn't a powerhouse yet, and have done the right thing...keeping most of their games close. Having a nearly even points for/against number is an impressive thing for a club that had a lot of question marks starting the season. I don't think the stronger opposing clubs are taking them for an easy win. Other than the handful of blow-outs that all teams suffer, they've managed to keep the fans hopeful in the second half on most games. Good stuff. 865350[/snapback] Living here in NYC and having to deal with the NYC area football team blowhards, they all concur: The Bills are no slouch. They have won 4 of their last 6 and in their losses this season, they have faced the division leader in 5 of those games. At least it is good to hear the talking heads taking notice in the Bills improvement over the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Living here in NYC and having to deal with the NYC area football team blowhards, they all concur: The Bills are no slouch. They have won 4 of their last 6 and in their losses this season, they have faced the division leader in 5 of those games. At least it is good to hear the talking heads taking notice in the Bills improvement over the season. 865363[/snapback] I find that the local n'paper beat reporters in the NFL cities have a more fair assessment of other teams - Bills included. The national crowd tends towards grandiose (blowhard ) statements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR4444 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Buffalo Bills have a league worst 189 first downs. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 865285[/snapback] \ forgive my ignorance, but isn't this at least partly a function of the Bills success with "big plays" on offense? If you;re completing 50+ yard pass plays, and even a running play last week, that would limit the opportunity to pile up first down after first down on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 haha - good stuff. I like presenting the facts, juxtaposing some of the facts against other facts, without comment, and seeing the reaction. FWIW - I think we are having a good season for what is ostensibly a rebuilding season. The first batch of stats are great news, that demonstrates we obviously have some very talented players on our team. The middle stats demonstrate that we don't have a fully cohesive team yet, despite the very good players we have in places. The end stat made me laugh - I came across it by accident when I was browsing the Jets results against us in past years. BUT tt's a strange coincidence that New England in 2003 (not 2004, my bad) was a lock for the playoffs as division winner and we played and lost to them on the last day of the year. This time we face Baltimore, who look to be a lock for the playoffs as division winners too. It's this kind of analysis that helps us understand football better. If only we knew what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 \forgive my ignorance, but isn't this at least partly a function of the Bills success with "big plays" on offense? If you;re completing 50+ yard pass plays, and even a running play last week, that would limit the opportunity to pile up first down after first down on offense. 865381[/snapback] Agreed - that's why we've won games (or gone close) without getting loads of 1st Downs. But it's not a good sign - and it indicates we've been too conservative so far. Some more industrious person than I might analyse the number of first downs over the first 6 games as compared to the last 7 to see how those 189 are spread out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 schobel is tied for first in sacks with merriman. (merriman missed 4 games due to a seroid suspention). 865343[/snapback] Message to kids: Go ahead and take steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 JP Losman (12th in NFL passer rating) has a better rating than Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve McNair, Matt Leinart and Michael Vick. 865285[/snapback] But ESPN has him ranked behind all of those chuckleheads, and that's all that matters, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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