C.Biscuit97 Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Sorry just want to add some facts to my point. Here are the career playoff stats of both players. James Kelly Year Opp Result | CMP ATT PYD PTD INT | RSH YD TD ---------------------+--------------------------+----------------- 1988 hou W,17-10 | 19 33 244 0 1 | 3 18 0 1988 cin L,10-21 | 14 30 163 1 3 | 2 10 0 1989 cle L,30-34 | 28 54 405 3 2 | 1 5 0 1990 mia W,44-34 | 19 29 339 3 1 | 5 37 0 1990 rai W,51-3 | 17 23 300 2 1 | 2 12 0 *1990 nyg L,19-20 | 18 30 212 0 0 | 6 23 0 1991 kan W,37-14 | 23 35 273 3 3 | 1 2 0 1991 den W,10-7 | 13 25 117 0 2 | 2 9 0 *1991 was L,24-37 | 28 58 275 2 4 | 3 16 0 1992 mia W,29-10 | 17 24 177 1 2 | 3 4 0 *1992 dal L,17-52 | 4 7 82 0 2 | 0 0 0 1993 rai W,29-23 | 27 37 287 2 0 | 5 -5 0 1993 kan W,30-13 | 17 27 160 0 0 | 2 3 0 *1993 dal L,13-30 | 31 50 260 0 1 | 2 12 0 1995 mia W,37-22 | 12 22 195 1 2 | 3 -3 0 1995 pit L,21-40 | 14 29 135 1 3 | 0 0 0 1996 jax L,27-30 | 21 32 239 1 1 | 4 18 0 ---------------------+--------------------------+----------------- TOTAL | 322 545 3863 20 28 | 44 161 0 Kelly's career playoff averages (17 games, 18.94 comps., 32.06 atts. for 59.1%, 227.24 yards, 1.18 tds, 1.65 ints) http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/KellJi00.htm Thurman Thomas Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD ---------------------+-----------------+----------------- 1988 hou W,17-10 | 7 75 1 | 0 0 0 1988 cin L,10-21 | 4 6 0 | 0 0 0 1989 cle L,30-34 | 10 27 0 | 13 150 2 1990 mia W,44-34 | 32 117 2 | 3 38 0 1990 rai W,51-3 | 25 138 1 | 5 61 0 *1990 nyg L,19-20 | 15 135 1 | 5 55 0 1991 kan W,37-14 | 22 100 0 | 4 21 0 1991 den W,10-7 | 26 72 0 | 3 15 0 *1991 was L,24-37 | 10 13 1 | 4 27 0 1992 hou W,41-38 | 11 26 0 | 2 -3 0 1992 pit W,24-3 | 19 54 0 | 3 25 0 1992 mia W,29-10 | 20 96 0 | 5 70 1 *1992 dal L,17-52 | 11 19 1 | 4 10 0 1993 rai W,29-23 | 14 44 1 | 6 48 0 1993 kan W,30-13 | 33 186 3 | 2 22 0 *1993 dal L,13-30 | 16 37 1 | 7 52 0 1995 mia W,37-22 | 25 158 1 | 3 42 0 1995 pit L,21-40 | 13 46 1 | 3 12 1 1996 jax L,27-30 | 14 50 1 | 3 24 1 1998 mia L,17-24 | 7 33 1 | 1 3 0 1999 ten L,16-22 | 5 10 0 | 0 0 0 ---------------------+-----------------+----------------- TOTAL | 339 1442 16 | 76 672 5 Thurman (21 games, 16.14 atts. for 68.67 yards, 0.76 tds, 3.62 recs. for 32 yards, 0.24 tds) http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/ThomTh00.htm Granted, stats never tell the whole story but Thurman was good for 100 total yards a game and at least one td. He was a great big game player for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 THANK YOU C. Biscuit I pointed this out in another thread, but eh. Like someone told me though this is more a popularity contest then a judgment of who was the better player, and quaterbacks tend to win popularity contests. Thurman imo would win hands down over Jim Kelly. Kelly was pretty bad when it came to the postseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Anyways, that's just my two cents. And please keep in mind that I'm an idiot. 706487[/snapback] tee hee, that was a funny was to finish. It's far easier on all to argue who was the better of two greats rather than our typical arguments over which Bill is not going to make it. I find I tend to veer towards the last good argument I read between the two. They are both legends & as a fan it is really hard to pick who I would kick off the Island. In the end I voted against Jim based on TT being my first favourite....no logic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 THANK YOU C. Biscuit I pointed this out in another thread, but eh. Like someone told me though this is more a popularity contest then a judgment of who was the better player, and quaterbacks tend to win popularity contests. Thurman imo would win hands down over Jim Kelly. Kelly was pretty bad when it came to the postseason 706500[/snapback] I hear ya. Obviously, the QB is always going to be the most popular player and the guy who gets all the chicks. But TT was the what made this offense go. I think a good example of this the Rams with Warner and Faulk. Warner put up crazy numbers but Faulk was the guy teams feared. I think this was similar to Kelly and Thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 tee hee, that was a funny was to finish. It's far easier on all to argue who was the better of two greats rather than our typical arguments over which Bill is not going to make it. I find I tend to veer towards the last good argument I read between the two. They are both legends & as a fan it is really hard to pick who I would kick off the Island. In the end I voted against Jim based on TT being my first favourite....no logic at all. 706502[/snapback] Haha, I hear ya. Hopefully, one day we can have this argument about McGahee and Losman. You can't lose with either Kelly or Thomas and it's a nice argument to have. In the end, the QB will get the glory (and in fairness the QB also gets the brute of criticism). But TT did it all and was one of the greatest ever (I'd say at least top 10). As great as Kelly was, he isn't in the top 15. But you can't lose either way. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Jimbo, Jimbo, Jimbo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Jim Kelly broke a guys leg for intercepting one of his passes. He is the "MAN" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 How did the Thermal the traitor make it this far. Maybe the Felons can vote him on their island, but when he wore those colors, he should never be associated with the Bills. 706489[/snapback] Because all the young kids voted off names they did not recongnize from Bills history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 This whole thing may have been valid if you had included Steve Tasker on the original list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 This whole thing may have been valid if you had included Steve Tasker on the original list. 706747[/snapback] What he said but with exclamation marks at the end. Tasker would have won Bills Survivor & until there is a Bills Survivor with Tasker in it, I view Jimbo wins by default. Go Tasker!!! Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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