MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Looky here: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?...n_john#20060125 Bates considers offer from Bills: The Bills have offered former Packers defensive coordinator Jim Bates their defensive coordinator job. He is going to take Wednesday night to think about it, but the Bills have the last defensive coordinator job available. The Texans are expected to hire Frank Bush and Coach Smith as co-defensive coordinators, and once that deal is done, the Bills are the last chance for a coach to land a defensive coordinator job. For the moment, Bates' decision is whether to take the Bills offer or sit out the season under the Packers paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 We'll look damn silly if he decides to just sit out and wait a year rather than coach us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 We'll look damn silly if he decides to just sit out and wait a year rather than coach us Ain't THAT the truth! I can see it now: "Those bastids didn't give Mikey the HC'ing job. Fug 'em!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Oh man the bitter irony if SOPRANO is right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBledsoe Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I pray he takes the job. . . he did a good job in GB and Miami. In GB, the defense was putrid the year before he got there, and very solid this past year. He is a good one that everyone should be happy with. I predict that, if hired, Bates hiring will be the first around here this month that doesn't get a bunch of negative posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Oh man the bitter irony if SOPRANO is right... 584147[/snapback] And so is half the board who also guessed that Bates would be offered the DC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Oh man the bitter irony if SOPRANO is right... Well he DID (or should I say his source did) whiff on Sherman and Caldwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 I pray he takes the job. . . he did a good job in GB and Miami. In GB, the defense was putrid the year before he got there, and very solid this past year. He is a good one that everyone should be happy with. I predict that, if hired, Bates hiring will be the first around here this month that doesn't get a bunch of negative posts. Well considering your reply in the other thread, I guess we can expect that to at least include you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Also from the same article: Jauron's experience pays off Bills coach Dick Jauron got a later start than the Jets' Eric Mangini, but he's jumped to a significant lead in assembling his staff. Jauron beat out the Jets for former Rams offensive coordinator Steve Fairchild. The Bills made a great hire along their defensive line by getting Bill Kollar of the Rams. Those two moves show the advantage of having an established, longtime head coach vs. a young 34-year-old head coach. Jauron has a long history in the NFL and a great reputation for assistants. Mangini is a bright mind, but he doesn't have a long background of working with different coaches. It will be interesting to see how Mangini puts his staff together. Their seems to be mutual interest with the Dallas Cowboys in former Texans offensive coordinator Chris Palmer, so it will be interesting to see if Mangini can pull Palmer away from Bill Parcells. Although it is all from The Nerd, so take it for what its worth. And wasn't Clayton completely hating on Jauron just a few days ago? Now he's a genius for the staff he's putting together? Ahhh E$PN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Oh man the bitter irony if SOPRANO is right... 584147[/snapback] Blind squirrel, meet nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Just because espn reports it, I don't always believe it. They've screwed the pooch too many times via reporting unsubstantiated rumors as fact. If that's an accurate report, we should know something by tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Blind nut meet squirrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBledsoe Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Well considering your reply in the other thread, I guess we can expect that to at least include you. 584152[/snapback] Yes, I'd actually be pleased with Bates hiring. So far, "Cowboy Logic" tally sheet reads like this: Levy: Good Jauron: Bad Fairchild:Bad (but, I'm hopeful now) Bates: Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I pray he takes the job. . . he did a good job in GB and Miami. In GB, the defense was putrid the year before he got there, and very solid this past year. He is a good one that everyone should be happy with. I predict that, if hired, Bates hiring will be the first around here this month that doesn't get a bunch of negative posts. 584149[/snapback] You think there is something that can be done on OBD that won't get a bunch of negative posts????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Well, if we get him, we'll have one of the better D coordinators in the league. Miami was always tough under Bates, don't forget that. And his players really like him. If we don't get him, and he decides to do nothing and collect a packer paycheck, then we'll know that Ralph's wallet is truly tight, and we'll know where a big part of the problem is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Yes, I'd actually be pleased with Bates hiring. So far, "Cowboy Logic" tally sheet reads like this: Levy: Good Jauron: Bad Fairchild:Bad (but, I'm hopeful now) Bates: Good 584161[/snapback] Actually, I like the Fairchild hire. Given Ralphs' cheapness with HC's, you knew we weren't going to get a bonifide, established guy. If the owner is going to go on the cheap with a HC, you can be sure he isn't going to pay top dollar for a coordinator. I think the Bills need some life injected into their offense. The Rams, over the last few years, win or lose, have had success in getting a lot out of previously thought of as mediocre QB's (Warner, Bulger), and they spread the ball around a lot. Martz is known to love the pass, but the Rams ran the ball well, at various times. I think we get, in Fairchild, a guy who is schooled in the "offensive genious" of Martz, without getting stuck with the "douche bag" that is Martz....a lot of the Rams offensive success was dependent on the running back, either running or blocking. Hopefully, Willis is in step with all of the changes, and elevates his game, the way most of us thought he would this past season. I would love to see Bates, but not to be a pessimist, my gut tells me he won't take the job. Not only is Ralph likely not to shell out much for him, he is an older, established guy who seems to envision himself a HC. Would he want to come to work in Buffalo, with the situation as shaky as it is, for a HC who has been pegged as being a defensive coach? I hope I am wrong, but I just don't see it happening...he won't stay unemployed for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I think the Bills need some life injected into their offense. The Rams, over the last few years, win or lose, have had success in getting a lot out of previously thought of as mediocre QB's (Warner, Bulger), and they spread the ball around a lot. Martz is known to love the pass, but the Rams ran the ball well, at various times. I think we get, in Fairchild, a guy who is schooled in the "offensive genious" of Martz, without getting stuck with the "douche bag" that is Martz....a lot of the Rams offensive success was dependent on the running back, either running or blocking. 584177[/snapback] One thing to add to your thinking: Fairchild, at one time was a QB. Watching Martz get his QBs killed every week... had to teach Fairchild what not to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 If the owner is going to go on the cheap with a HC, you can be sure he isn't going to pay top dollar for a coordinator. 584177[/snapback] I keep seeing references to Ralph's frugality, but frankly, I don't know how they can be justified. 30 years ago, yeah, he was a cheap SOB. But everything the Bills have done since the late 80's sure didn't seem to be short-cutted or cheap. In fact, it seems that most everything has been done pretty close to 1st class -- from the Training Camps that became the league model to the gameday experience, he spends money. Also, Green Bay and St Louis TV stations' websites have reported that Bates turned down over $1 million per year from the Rams. If Clayton's report is accurate and Bates is contemplating the Bills' DC job, Ralph must have coughed up a good chunk of change, certainly no less than what the Rams offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Yes, I'd actually be pleased with Bates hiring. So far, "Cowboy Logic" tally sheet reads like this: Levy: Good Jauron: Bad Fairchild:Bad (but, I'm hopeful now) Bates: Good 584161[/snapback] You have to remember that some of these coaches would not even be here if it were not for Jauron. Jauron has a ton of respect around the league and most coaches view it as an honor to work with him. If Jauron were not here, who knows if these other coaches even come in here. I mean look at Mangini....Un known and has not earned the same respect. Not only can't he hire a new staff, but all of the current staff wants out! It is impossible to know if Jauron will turn out to be a great coach, but one thing is for sure.....the respect that Jauron has around the league has been paying immediate dividends in hiring a quailty staff. If Bates does end up coming in.......well, I guess you would have to say he has been a great hire for us so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Good point(s) sven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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