Orton's Arm Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Looking at guys like Parcells and Belichick, you hear about their coaching trees. You hear that so-and-so got his start under someone like that, only to become a successful head coach elsewhere in his own right. Marv was in the league for many years as a head coach. How many successful head coaches or coordinators currently in the league got their start under Marv? I don't know of any. So I'm not expecting Marv to do that great a job selecting the Bills' next head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Where is Levy's coaching tree? It's in my kids pencil cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Looking at guys like Parcells and Belichick, you hear about their coaching trees. You hear that so-and-so got his start under someone like that, only to become a successful head coach elsewhere in his own right. Marv was in the league for many years as a head coach. How many successful head coaches or coordinators currently in the league got their start under Marv? I don't know of any. So I'm not expecting Marv to do that great a job selecting the Bills' next head coach. 572501[/snapback] Really????? Marv's last offensive coordinator was Dan Henning, who is the current offensive coordinator of the Panthers. Marv's last defensive coordinator was Wade Phillips, who is currently in consideration for a number of HC openings. Before that, Marchibroda was the OC and be went onto be the HC of the Colts and led his team to the AFC title game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I fail to see any connection between marv picking a head coach and his picking of asst coaches who became head coaches. Marv was trying to pick good asst coaches, which he did, not pick asst coaches that would go on to become good head coaches someplace. any chance they had as head coaches is after the fact. Looking at guys like Parcells and Belichick, you hear about their coaching trees. You hear that so-and-so got his start under someone like that, only to become a successful head coach elsewhere in his own right. Marv was in the league for many years as a head coach. How many successful head coaches or coordinators currently in the league got their start under Marv? I don't know of any. So I'm not expecting Marv to do that great a job selecting the Bills' next head coach. 572501[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Looking at guys like Parcells and Belichick, you hear about their coaching trees. You hear that so-and-so got his start under someone like that, only to become a successful head coach elsewhere in his own right. Marv was in the league for many years as a head coach. How many successful head coaches or coordinators currently in the league got their start under Marv? I don't know of any. So I'm not expecting Marv to do that great a job selecting the Bills' next head coach. 572501[/snapback] Hey....what about Chuck Lester. He got his start under Marv! Okay, so he's not a HC, OC or DC, but he has developed as an asst. coach under numerous regimes and I hear his coffee making abilities have really improved over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 trees. 572501[/snapback] It possibly resides in California, in the Petrified Forest National Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 It possibly resides in California, in the Petrified Forest National Park. 572595[/snapback] i was going to suggest that for Marv's sake...it is a prune tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 i was going to suggest that for Marv's sake...it is a prune tree. 572616[/snapback] Good point. Marv is known as a regular guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 i was going to suggest that for Marv's sake...it is a prune tree. 572616[/snapback] You mean a plum tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 i was going to suggest that for Marv's sake...it is a prune tree. 572616[/snapback] Perhaps a prickly pear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Good point. Marv is known as a regular guy. 572633[/snapback] too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 i was going to suggest that for Marv's sake...it is a prune tree. 572616[/snapback] little known fact: prune trees only grow in the wild and are usually surrounded by raisin bushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 you big dopes...his tree is the Methuselah Tree...it's over 4,725 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 You mean a plum tree? 572637[/snapback] ummmm......yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisiskeith12 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Maybe the people that worked under Marv were best fitted to be under people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Really????? Marv's last offensive coordinator was Dan Henning, who is the current offensive coordinator of the Panthers. Marv's last defensive coordinator was Wade Phillips, who is currently in consideration for a number of HC openings. Before that, Marchibroda was the OC and be went onto be the HC of the Colts and led his team to the AFC title game. 572526[/snapback] yes tis is true................but theses are guys that were already coaches.marv didnt make them into coaches.when they talk about the parcells or bill walsh coaching trees they are talking about people who cut their teeth learning their systems from the start and then moving on to do their thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Really????? Marv's last offensive coordinator was Dan Henning, who is the current offensive coordinator of the Panthers. Marv's last defensive coordinator was Wade Phillips, who is currently in consideration for a number of HC openings. Before that, Marchibroda was the OC and be went onto be the HC of the Colts and led his team to the AFC title game. 572526[/snapback] Not bad, but pales in comparison to guys like Parcells, Belichick, and Cowher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Think about it, though. In order to ripen on a coaching tree, the assistant fruit has to be relatively young. Most of Marv's assistants had been around the block, in some cases several times. For much of his time in Buffalo, Marv had Ted Marchibroda and Walt Corey as his OC and DC; those guys were born old. Henning and Phillips had already been HCs when they came onboard, too. Belichick, Cowher, Parcells, all those guys tended to hire younger assistants. You can look at it as though they're better groomers than Marv, or you can look at it as though Marv isn't intimidated by hiring his peers as assistants. I don't think Joe Gibbs has much of a coaching tree, either, come to think of it. Unless you think Joe Bugel counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assquatch Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 You mean a plum tree? 572637[/snapback] So if prunes are dried plums, where the hell do we get prune juice from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Think about it, though. In order to ripen on a coaching tree, the assistant fruit has to be relatively young. Most of Marv's assistants had been around the block, in some cases several times. For much of his time in Buffalo, Marv had Ted Marchibroda and Walt Corey as his OC and DC; those guys were born old. Henning and Phillips had already been HCs when they came onboard, too. Belichick, Cowher, Parcells, all those guys tended to hire younger assistants. You can look at it as though they're better groomers than Marv, or you can look at it as though Marv isn't intimidated by hiring his peers as assistants. I don't think Joe Gibbs has much of a coaching tree, either, come to think of it. Unless you think Joe Bugel counts. 572743[/snapback] Bingo! BTW, Jimmy Johnson has a diseased tree. His list of HC failures is a long one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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