stuckincincy Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Agreed...I was going to write that if Smith had Young's scrambling ability he would have lasted a lot longer in Cincy... 538495[/snapback] Smith was a very good scrambler...problem was, unlike Young, nobody else attended the party. He was routinely flattened before he got the chance to get the ball up for a pass. The '90's B'gals were not ordinary bad...they were spectacularly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 If we get a top 5 pick I just dont see any way that we DONT trade down.....and it is because of the reason you mentioned...the DT/DE/OL that we need will probably not deserve to be drafted that high........ We will probably trade down into the teens.....and get another 2nd pick We are going to rebiuld this team through the draft 537468[/snapback] John, when we went from 14th to 21st in the first round (the year in which we got Clements), we acquired another 2nd round pick. Imo, you are vastly under-rating the value of a top 5 pick. I think that if a team in the mid to high teens wanted to trade up THAT high, they would have to give up a 2nd, AND a #1 in the following season, or something of the sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 My thinking is this: If Bush or Williams is there at our pick, you take whoever is there. If not, I try and trade down.....and probably pray I can still land the Oregon DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 The goal here is to win the Super Bowl. Nothing less. This team is easily two years away, and more probably three. So in approaching this draft, the GM should envision the team as it should be 2 - 3 years from now, and take whichever players would be able to make the most elite and important contributions to that future team. Also make whatever coaching or system changes you want to make, and make them now, and plug the holes in as you go. So if you think you'd be better off with a 3-4 defense at some point in the future, switch to it today. Yeah, there will be a few more holes than if you'd stayed with the 4-3. At least in the short-term. But maybe some of those 4-3 players that seemed to plug holes weren't going to be able to help the team much three years from now anyway. Or take the draft. If you have a choice between Mike Williams and Roy Williams, you take Roy, even though Mike's position is a bigger need. The last thing this team should be doing is taking players who can make an immediate impact. You want to focus on positions--such as the offensive line--which generally take at least a year to learn. If the Bills go 4-12 this year, and do the same next year, they'd be in a position to truly benefit from the next two drafts. The 2007 or 2008 drafts would be the time to take DTs and other now players. Of course, if it's a choice between an elite DT and an average OL, you take the DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Where'd you come up with that? 538111[/snapback] Let's see- 7000 posts, nearly all pissing in Bill's fans mouths in one way or another. Chuck Dickerson should be such a pessimistic. No Bill's fan has stepped up to say they've ever seen him at a game, in a sports bar, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Let's see- 7000 posts, nearly all pissing in Bill's fans mouths in one way or another. Chuck Dickerson should be such a pessimistic. No Bill's fan has stepped up to say they've ever seen him at a game, in a sports bar, etc. 539075[/snapback] The only one I'm pissing on is you... cause you like it so much. Now drop to your knees, open your mouth, and say ahh!... once again. Once Proud AKC Acts So Humble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 The only one I'm pissing on is you... cause you like it so much.. Now drop to your knees, open your mouth, and say ahh!... once again. Once Proud AKC Acts So Humble 539097[/snapback] Share with us Troll- name a single known Bill's fan from this board who has ever been at a game or bar where you were cheering for the Bills? Now the silence, because you can't produce what doesn't exist ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Share with us Troll- name a single known Bill's fan from this board who has ever been at a game or bar where you were cheering for the Bills?Now the silence, because you can't produce what doesn't exist ;-) 539105[/snapback] Once Proud Kurt Acts So Humble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Let's see- 7000 posts, nearly all pissing in Bill's fans mouths in one way or another. Chuck Dickerson should be such a pessimistic. No Bill's fan has stepped up to say they've ever seen him at a game, in a sports bar, etc. 539075[/snapback] Can you provide us with links to these posts that attack Bills' fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Can you provide us with links to these posts that attack Bills' fans? 539110[/snapback] Cumulative Body of Spew left on TSW by a Troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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