IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/23/D8CPU38G8.html Ya gotta love religion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I guess the part where Jesus befriended lepers, beggars, thieves, and prostitutes is kinda' lost on them, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/23/D8CPU38G8.htmlYa gotta love religion... 451574[/snapback] Making a broad generalization about religion.....that's even more intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Making a broad generalization about religion.....that's even more intelligent. 451585[/snapback] Oh, I'm sorry. I just happen to see more that supports my opinion. Tell me Keggy, name 5 branches of religion that OPENLY supports gay marriage/unions/lifestyle. I thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Making a broad generalization about religion.....that's even more intelligent. 451585[/snapback] agreed. Blanket statements are asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 So, the fact that the school had set up guidelines for admission - and that the fact that Shay's two mommies decided those guidlelines did not apply to them means that the Church is wrong? When they applied for admission - did they tell bold-faced lies? Did they sign papers knowingly that they were in violation of a simple set of rules? Gotta love the Church for enforcing their admission policies. It's too bad that people think rules are for others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Tell me Keggy, name 5 branches of religion that OPENLY supports gay marriage/unions/lifestyle. 451588[/snapback] Support and tolerance are two different animals. I don't support homosexuality, but do I tolerate it, much the same way as my church does. Perhaps you didn't hear about the gay Episcopal bishop? I think most Christians believe it's a sin, but most Christians realize that they themselves aren't perfect either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 So, the fact that the school had set up guidelines for admission - and that the fact that Shay's two mommies decided those guidlelines did not apply to them means that the Church is wrong? When they applied for admission - did they tell bold-faced lies? Did they sign papers knowingly that they were in violation of a simple set of rules? Gotta love the Church for enforcing their admission policies. It's too bad that people think rules are for others... 451595[/snapback] Private institution can make their own decisions. Ed, has a point, but at the same time, it is their school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 So, the fact that the school had set up guidelines for admission - and that the fact that Shay's two mommies decided those guidlelines did not apply to them means that the Church is wrong? When they applied for admission - did they tell bold-faced lies? Did they sign papers knowingly that they were in violation of a simple set of rules? Gotta love the Church for enforcing their admission policies. It's too bad that people think rules are for others... 451595[/snapback] Well, considering you have made anti-gay posts in the past, you get a big fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Support and tolerance are two different animals. I don't support homosexuality, but do I tolerate it, much the same way as my church does. Perhaps you didn't hear about the gay Episcopal bishop? I think most Christians believe it's a sin, but most Christians realize that they themselves aren't perfect either. 451597[/snapback] OK, fine. Name 5 branches of relion that tolerate homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 So, the fact that the school had set up guidelines for admission - and that the fact that Shay's two mommies decided those guidlelines did not apply to them means that the Church is wrong? When they applied for admission - did they tell bold-faced lies? Did they sign papers knowingly that they were in violation of a simple set of rules? Gotta love the Church for enforcing their admission policies. It's too bad that people think rules are for others... 451595[/snapback] So an openly discriminatory policy is OK, as long as it's a policy? Would it be OK if neither of the parents could be Black? Left-handed? Mac users? While I agree it's a shame to make a sweeping statement about religion in general, I subscribe to the sentiment in my favorite bumper sticker: God protect me from your followers! Yes, i look to the bumber sticker for inspiration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Private institution can make their own decisions. Ed, has a point, but at the same time, it is their school. 451600[/snapback] Ed has no point. A group of people got together and formed a school where a certain set of values are to be taught along side their academic curriculum. In order to facilitate their moral teachings, and knowing that parental support is crucial in teaching their kids - they decided that at least one parent cannot be in direct conflict with their teaching. They made a set of rules and despite having a partner for 22 years - these two women decided it didn't apply to them. I assume there were interviews and applications to be filled out. I would be shocked if they didn't know about this policy and it is probably a safe assumption that somewhere they just lied to get in to that school. Yet Ed seeks to disparage the Church for sticking to their guidelines, instead of faulting the women for placing that child in that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Yet Ed seeks to disparage the Church for sticking to their guidelines, instead of faulting the women for placing that child in that situation? 451613[/snapback] That is probably the most ignorant statement I have ever read on TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 So an openly discriminatory policy is OK, as long as it's a policy? Would it be OK if neither of the parents could be Black? Left-handed? Mac users? 451612[/snapback] As long as silly analogies like these are made, there really isn't any room for thoughful discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 So an openly discriminatory policy is OK, as long as it's a policy? Would it be OK if neither of the parents could be Black? Left-handed? Mac users? 451612[/snapback] Swish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 OK, fine. Name 5 branches of relion that tolerate homosexuality. 451609[/snapback] I'm not too terribly concerned about Christian denominations' tolerance of homosexuality, but since you seem to be : Lutherans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterian, and Anglicans all tolerate homosexuality to one degree or another. It goes back to the "Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone" thingy... Now name me 5 that don't tolerate homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 I'm not too terribly concerned about Christian denominations' tolerance of homosexuality, but since you seem to be : Lutherans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterian, and Anglicans all tolerate homosexuality to one degree or another. It goes back to the "Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone" thingy... Now name me 5 that don't tolerate homosexuality. 451621[/snapback] Born-again, Islam, Jehova's, Catholicism, Prtoestantism. Care to continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 That is probably the most ignorant statement I have ever read on TBD. 451614[/snapback] Your reaction to this is EXACTLY the reason why the guideline exists Ed. It is a school that teaches a particular set of moral values. If it is known beforehand that the parents do not subscribe to those teachings - then the parents will be directly undermining the lessons being taught. This pits the school against the parents, which they are taking steps to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Your reaction to this is EXACTLY the reason why the guideline exists Ed. It is a school that teaches a particular set of moral values. If it is known beforehand that the parents do not subscribe to those teachings - then the parents will be directly undermining the lessons being taught. This pits the school against the parents, which they are taking steps to avoid. 451627[/snapback] Just because someone is gay, doesn't mean they don't have "moral values." So in essence you're saying that I could live a good Christian life, but if I were gay, I would be excluded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Thespians are cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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