Bill from NYC Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 23 55 Roscoe Parrish Bills WR Miami (FL) then 32 64 Adam Terry Ravens T Syracuse 3rd round 15 79 Evan Mathis Panthers G Alabama 17 81 Richie Incognito Rams C Nebraska (injured) 27 91 Chris Colmer Buccaneers T North Carolina State 29 93 Trai Essex Steelers T Northwestern 30 94 Adam Snyder 49ers G Oregon 36 100 Nick Kaczur Patriots G Toledo 4th round 4 105 Ray Willis Seahawks T Florida State 6 107 Dan Buenning Buccaneers G Wisconsin 10 111 Elton Brown Cardinals G Virginia 12 113 David Stewart Titans T Mississippi State 18 119 Eric Ghiaciuc Bengals C Central Michigan 21 122 Duke Preston Bills C Illinois 23 124 Jason Brown Ravens C North Carolina 25 126 Todd Herremans Eagles T Saginaw Valley State 28 129 Dylan Gandy Colts G Texas Tech 33 134 Claude Terrell Rams G New Mexico 5th round 7 143 Junius Coston Packers C North Carolina A&T 14 150 Daniel Loper Titans T Texas Tech 15 151 Drew Hodgdon Texans C Arizona State 17 153 Adam Kieft Bengals T Central Michigan 26 162 Anthony Alabi Dolphins T Texas Christian 27 163 Frank Omiyale Falcons T Tennessee Tech 28 164 Wesley Britt Chargers T Alabama 29 165 Robert Hunt Colts C North Dakota State 33 169 Geoff Hangartner Panthers C Texas A&M 36 172 Scott Young Eagles G Brigham Young 6th round 3 177 Wes Sims Chargers G Oklahoma 13 187 Will Svitek Chiefs T Stanford 23 197 Justin Geisinger Bills G Vanderbilt 26 200 Chris Myers Broncos G Miami (FL) 30 204 Chris Kemoeatu Steelers G Utah 33 207 Joe Berger Panthers T Michigan Tech 35 209 Rob Petitti Cowboys T Pittsburgh (starter RT for them) 37 211 Calvin Armstrong Eagles T Washington State 40 214 Pete McMahon Raiders T Iowa 7th round 3 217 Jon Dunn Browns T Virginia Tech 24 238 Jeremy Parquet Chiefs T Southern Mississippi 28 242 Scott Mruczkowski Chargers C Bowling Green 2 246 William Whitticker Packers G Michigan State 40 254 Doug Nienhuis Seahawks T Oregon State 421247[/snapback] Amazing....thank you. Posts like this are part of what makes this board just so great. Btw, how did you pick that screen name? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I had the same retort, when I asked if any rookie OL picked AFTER Parrish was/were going to start for any NFL team this year. Your point was that the Bills should have drafted an OL who could start (at LG) this year. I don't think any OL who were picked after Parrish ARE going to start this year, and Parrish should make a much greater impact than a rookie OL picked after him. 421243[/snapback] These guys are starters for their teams Snyder for San Fran at RG - 3rd round Pettiti for Dallas at RT - 6th round Terrell for STl at LG - 4th round Also picked before Parrish but in the 2nd round Roos for Tenny at RT Johnson for Minn at RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 These guys are starters for their teams Snyder for San Fran at RG - 3rd round Pettiti for Dallas at RT - 6th round Terrell for STl at LG - 4th round Also picked before Parrish but in the 2nd round Roos for Tenny at RT Johnson for Minn at RG 421250[/snapback] The pats even took an OG in round 1, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 The pats even took an OG in round 1, no? 421251[/snapback] Actually these are the only projected starting rookies in the NFL right now. 1st rounders Brown (NO), Barron (STL), Spencer (SEA), and Mankins (NE), have not cracked the starting lineup yet. And Mankins was a G, and Spencer a Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Amazing....thank you. Posts like this are part of what makes this board just so great. Btw, how did you pick that screen name? Thanks again. 421249[/snapback] www.drafthistory.com has everything you need in this cases My name is Luis María. Luisma is my nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 www.drafthistory.com has everything you need in this cases My name is Luis María. Luisma is my nickname. 421254[/snapback] All this time, I had thought that you had named yourself after the guy who was sodomized in the 70 Pct. I am really sorry about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 These guys are starters for their teams Snyder for San Fran at RG - 3rd round Pettiti for Dallas at RT - 6th round Terrell for STl at LG - 4th round Who COULDN'T start on the O-line for the 49'ers? And that's 3 players out of 41 picked after Parrish, with the next starter (Synder) picked 40 spots later. Not to mention Duke Preston could probably start at LG if the Bills wanted to go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beausox Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I actually care two iota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemhoff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 23 55 Roscoe Parrish Bills WR Miami (FL) then 32 64 Adam Terry Ravens T Syracuse 3rd round 15 79 Evan Mathis Panthers G Alabama 17 81 Richie Incognito Rams C Nebraska (injured) 27 91 Chris Colmer Buccaneers T North Carolina State 29 93 Trai Essex Steelers T Northwestern 30 94 Adam Snyder 49ers G Oregon 36 100 Nick Kaczur Patriots G Toledo 4th round 4 105 Ray Willis Seahawks T Florida State 6 107 Dan Buenning Buccaneers G Wisconsin 10 111 Elton Brown Cardinals G Virginia 12 113 David Stewart Titans T Mississippi State 18 119 Eric Ghiaciuc Bengals C Central Michigan 21 122 Duke Preston Bills C Illinois 23 124 Jason Brown Ravens C North Carolina 25 126 Todd Herremans Eagles T Saginaw Valley State 28 129 Dylan Gandy Colts G Texas Tech 33 134 Claude Terrell Rams G New Mexico 5th round 7 143 Junius Coston Packers C North Carolina A&T 14 150 Daniel Loper Titans T Texas Tech 15 151 Drew Hodgdon Texans C Arizona State 17 153 Adam Kieft Bengals T Central Michigan 26 162 Anthony Alabi Dolphins T Texas Christian 27 163 Frank Omiyale Falcons T Tennessee Tech 28 164 Wesley Britt Chargers T Alabama 29 165 Robert Hunt Colts C North Dakota State 33 169 Geoff Hangartner Panthers C Texas A&M 36 172 Scott Young Eagles G Brigham Young 6th round 3 177 Wes Sims Chargers G Oklahoma 13 187 Will Svitek Chiefs T Stanford 23 197 Justin Geisinger Bills G Vanderbilt 26 200 Chris Myers Broncos G Miami (FL) 30 204 Chris Kemoeatu Steelers G Utah 33 207 Joe Berger Panthers T Michigan Tech 35 209 Rob Petitti Cowboys T Pittsburgh (starter RT for them) 37 211 Calvin Armstrong Eagles T Washington State 40 214 Pete McMahon Raiders T Iowa 7th round 3 217 Jon Dunn Browns T Virginia Tech 24 238 Jeremy Parquet Chiefs T Southern Mississippi 28 242 Scott Mruczkowski Chargers C Bowling Green 2 246 William Whitticker Packers G Michigan State 40 254 Doug Nienhuis Seahawks T Oregon State 421247[/snapback] Boy, I would've loved to see Adam Terry from the Cuse wearing Bills colors and playing LT. I also think that the Willis kid from FSU could have been good. Parrish better put up some impressive #'s and "open" up our offense significantly for him to have been worth it this year. If only Miami had a LG that was graduating, I am sure that TD would have gotten him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 If you are happy with this decade long mess up front, so be it. I think that it sucks to have a weak group of blockers in a tough, blue collar football town. Do you favor finesse type team? I do not, and think that the only thing that the Bills lack in terms of being a championship team is a tough, mean group of "Hogs." Sadly, there is no end in sight, but I will never give up! GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 421237[/snapback] The lack of size on both sides of the line seems to be the Bills curse. Even in the Super Bowl years our line was,nt big enough to beat the larger lines of the NFC. Whats frustrating is that the Bills simply do not learn from previous failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Good retort, but perhaps you can see my point. Were any OTs taken after we chose the midget in round 2? Don't ya see.....two years in a row, we chose a wr with our first selection. Our second selections were a qb and a TE, in addition to trading away a 2nd and a 5th in 04. I saw a recent interview with Bill Parcells in which he stated that if he has a list of 50 receivers at draft time, his list of guards will probably be at 25. Many of you are ready to proclaim that Parcells is now dumb because he signed Bledsoe, but he is a legendary football guy and these were his words. Imo, the bottom line is that both Mr. Butler and TD did a lousy job of bringing vital blockers to our beloved football team; a team that plays in the cold, rain and snow (sounds like a Grateful Dead Song ). If you are happy with this decade long mess up front, so be it. I think that it sucks to have a weak group of blockers in a tough, blue collar football town. Do you favor finesse type team? I do not, and think that the only thing that the Bills lack in terms of being a championship team is a tough, mean group of "Hogs." Sadly, there is no end in sight, but I will never give up! GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 421237[/snapback] I do think the offensive line is very weak and I don't like that, but my point was that there weren't many offensive lineman that I would have wanted with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 What is an IOTA ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beausox Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 What is an IOTA ? 421426[/snapback] 9th letter of Greek alphabet. Means an infinitesimal amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Who COULDN'T start on the O-line for the 49'ers? And that's 3 players out of 41 picked after Parrish, with the next starter (Synder) picked 40 spots later. Not to mention Duke Preston could probably start at LG if the Bills wanted to go that route. 421304[/snapback] Way to change your standards, first you said name one that would start for any NFL team, now you change your tune. I had the same retort, when I asked if any rookie OL picked AFTER Parrish was/were going to start for any NFL team this year. Your point was that the Bills should have drafted an OL who could start (at LG) this year. I don't think any OL who were picked after Parrish ARE going to start this year, and Parrish should make a much greater impact than a rookie OL picked after him. Of course the other two guys are starting on some above average teams (Dallas and St Louis). What's your excuse there why they should not count. In addition, the Bills Oline sucks. The fact that you discount SF is ignorant at best because we win not because of our Oline but because of defense and ST's. Our oline maybe worse then SF and the fact that they have a rookie starting should show you that we are not evaling oline properly for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Why don't you people do ALL of us a favor and eat a bullet? You'll likely be happier. JEEZUZ FUGGING CHRISTMAS! The regular season hasn't even started yet! How do you know what we TRULY have until you see it in ACTUAL game conditons? Answer? you don't. So until then, quit kvetching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Why don't you people do ALL of us a favor and eat a bullet? You'll likely be happier. JEEZUZ FUGGING CHRISTMAS! The regular season hasn't even started yet! How do you know what we TRULY have until you see it in ACTUAL game conditons? Answer? you don't. So until then, quit kvetching. 421470[/snapback] Ludes my man, you'll feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Ludes my man, you'll feel better. 421472[/snapback] I could say the same to you knuckleheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I could say the same to you knuckleheads. 421476[/snapback] What? All I did was correct someone with facts regarding starting rookie olinemen? I also feel that our oline has looked poor to this point. Did I in anyway say how they will look come regular season? However, you would like to see a glimpse of competance on occassion in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I respected JMac until he put LS at LG to start last season. Kudos for him for having 86ed Pucillo, and kudos again to yanking LS. But he really needs to get some stones and admit to TD that he, in fact, can't make bricks without clay. They're asking him to do too much with too little, thinking it can be done via technique rather than having the physical tools and mentality to grade the road. 420828[/snapback] Do you assume that JM walks into TDs office and says "Give me some sh-- TD and I'll deliver you a SB."? Do you think he was lobbying for the Bills to pick up other teams castoffs so that he could prove that he's the man when it comes to O-line coaching? They got issues, no friggin question about it, but let's not assume that JM likes what he's been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Way to change your standards, first you said name one that would start for any NFL team, now you change your tune. Of course the other two guys are starting on some above average teams (Dallas and St Louis). What's your excuse there why they should not count. In addition, the Bills Oline sucks. The fact that you discount SF is ignorant at best because we win not because of our Oline but because of defense and ST's. Our oline maybe worse then SF and the fact that they have a rookie starting should show you that we are not evaling oline properly for the draft. Like I said, 3 out of 41 OL picked who are starting, whether because they're good enough to start or because their teams have no other choice, is NOT a great batting percentage. None would have been selected at Parrish's pick by anyone, much less the Bills, and Preston could probably start and do as well if given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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