Sound_n_Fury Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Per A$$wipe: HENRY DEAL HARDLY IMPRESSIVE http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm While the Associated Press is reporting that the Titans have signed newly-acquired running back Travis Henry to a multiyear deal, the "real" media does not yet have the terms. We do. Well, sort of. Although, on paper, the deal contains bigger numbers and more years, a league source tells us that the practical value of the contract is, in essence, three years and $7.2 million. Many NFL contracts, especially those signed by veterans, contain unrealistic salaries and bonus figures in the out years. In Henry's case, the wages and/or boni after year three will render a continued relationship impractical under the terms of the current deal. And the problem then for Henry (as many running backs nearing and/or passing the big 3-0 are learning) is that he'll be too old to generate a big money contract. At 26, now is the time for Henry to get paid. Why not play this season under the final year of his deal and then hit the market? You know, the market that saw LaMont Jordan (also 26) reel in $25 million over five years from the Raiders. The bottom line? Ignore the puffed-up numbers that his agent Hadley Englehard will be leaking to the media (or, at a minimum, letting them hack into his NFLPA account so they can get the figures on their own). The truth is that Henry has signed what appears to be a bad deal, for no good reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Titans | More about Henry Extension Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:37:36 -0700 Updating previous reports, ESPN.com's John Clayton reports RB Travis Henry's four-year contract extension with the Tennessee Titans will pay him about $9.7 million and includes a $4 million team option in 2006. Henry will play for his $1.25 million salary this year with no additional upfront money. If he performs at his normal 1,300-yard level, Henry can turn the deal into a $3 million or $3.5 million contract. What makes this so favorable to the Titans is that they don't have to invest in a running back in next year's draft, something they would have had to do in the first three rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 What makes this so favorable to the Titans is that they don't have to invest in a running back in next year's draft, something they would have had to do in the first three rounds. 385744[/snapback] Unless Henry stinks up the joint...then they are back to the board for a RB on day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Wow, Travis I guess you didn't deserve Lamont Jordan money. Not even close buddy. Better make sure you get a good money manager and learn to keep it zipped, or you'll be asking if I want ketchup with my fries in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesir Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Henry will play for his $1.25 million salary this year with no additional upfront money. This is unbelivable. He couldn't even get a signing bonus? Either his agent sucks or there is some skeleton in TH's closet that none of know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 This is unbelivable. He couldn't even get a signing bonus? Either his agent sucks or there is some skeleton in TH's closet that none of know about. 385975[/snapback] My feeling is Henry wants a shot at a starting job at this point to prove everyone wrong....If he gets 1300 yards again then he can renegotiate the contract with the Titans when he has leverage...Right now TH has no leverage and would like to prove to everyone that he is a starting caliber back in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 why did he not just play out his deal...from afar his extension looks ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 This is unbelivable. He couldn't even get a signing bonus? Either his agent sucks or there is some skeleton in TH's closet that none of know about. 385975[/snapback] The skeletons in his closet are open for all to see. He performed like crap in '04, he became a malcontent, is a one dimensional back, has become injury prone, has a reputation for fumbling, and is as dumb as as rock. Other than that, he's a great addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesir Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 The skeletons in his closet are open for all to see. He performed like crap in '04, he became a malcontent, is a one dimensional back, has become injury prone, has a reputation for fumbling, and is as dumb as as rock. Other than that, he's a great addition. 385996[/snapback] Agreed, but even Shane Mathews got a signing bonus! To not even get a couple hundred Thousand or so looks foolish (In the wierd world of pro athletes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Well, hopefully they'll at least cover his relocation expenses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Agreed, but even Shane Mathews got a signing bonus! To not even get a couple hundred Thousand or so looks foolish (In the wierd world of pro athletes) 386001[/snapback] It's almost like a try and buy. Since NFL contracts are not guarenteed. If last years performance and his precancerous type attitude continue, they can cut bait and draft/sign someone else, and they are only out this years contract. If he is a good boy, and plays like a proper teammate and not tripping on yard markers he will see some of the extension. Either way it is a win-win for Tenny, other than the draft pick we got. Tenny gets a cheap extension if he does well otherwise he is gone and no further cap hit on their part. For Travis it really is lose-lose. If he does poorly he is probably done and will see no more money from the NFL. If he does well he gets an undervalued contract that is really year to year and he will have to perform at a high level during at least the first 2 years or see the end of his career with relatively little money in the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Agreed, but even Shane Mathews got a signing bonus! To not even get a couple hundred Thousand or so looks foolish (In the wierd world of pro athletes) 386001[/snapback] As you may have noticed, I have a very low opinion of TH. If he doesn't average above 3.5 yards/carry this season, he'll be playing in Canada next year. To not get a bonus indicates his 'contract extention' is being treated as a conditional smokescreen by the Titans to make Travis feel good. Appears to be nothing there but fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 This is why the NFL sucks for players and it's basically the last resort for anybody with talent in another sport. Go play baseball young men, you don't have to destroy your body and if you are "average" you'll get paid like the superstars in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Wow, Travis I guess you didn't deserve Lamont Jordan money. Not even close buddy. Better make sure you get a good money manager and learn to keep it zipped, or you'll be asking if I want ketchup with my fries in a few years. Ah, the OTHER side of the argument again. First it was "he's not worth more than a 5th rounder" which changed to "a 3rd isn't that high of a pick." Now it's "well he wanted Lamont Jordan type of money which is why no one traded for him" to "he didn't deserve it." Give it up VA. It's getting tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Ah, the OTHER side of the argument again. First it was "he's not worth more than a 5th rounder" which changed to "a 3rd isn't that high of a pick." Now it's "well he wanted Lamont Jordan type of money which is why no one traded for him" to "he didn't deserve it." Give it up VA. It's getting tiring. 386021[/snapback] Are you saying he and his agent both didn't come out and say they wanted LJ money? They both did, and were both expecting it as part of the trade. Go back and look at the news articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Are you saying he and his agent both didn't come out and say they wanted LJ money? They both did, and were both expecting it as part of the trade. Go back and look at the news articles. Looking at what Travis got from the Titans, which is not even in the same solar system as what Jordan got, I seriously doubt he was looking for it. Why sign a 3-year deal for peanuts if you're looking for $5M a year and a $10M signing bonus? He took it because he now feels he's not worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Looking at what Travis got from the Titans, which is not even in the same solar system as what Jordan got, I seriously doubt he was looking for it. Why sign a 3-year deal for peanuts if you're looking for $5M a year and a $10M signing bonus? He took it because he now feels he's not worth it? 386027[/snapback] Umm.... that was my point. He finally figured it out. Maybe the deal could have happened sooner and even been better for the Bills he he realized that 3 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Are you saying he and his agent both didn't come out and say they wanted LJ money? They both did, and were both expecting it as part of the trade. Go back and look at the news articles. 386023[/snapback] Saying that in the media, immediately after seeing another back-up getting an outrageous contract the first days of free agency is not remotely the same as demanding it or believing it or expecting it or even thinking that is what he is worth. For what it's worth, I think the contract is a joke, and that Henry is not only dimwitted himself but has been almost completely disserviced by his dimwitted agent. He did, however, orchestrate the trade that got Travis out of there, which is what Travis wanted. It also seems to me that if Travis starts and gets 1300 yards (which is unlikely), he will make about 7.5 million next year because the incentives with bring his salary to 3.5 and the Titans would then give him the 4 mil bonus. You never really know what these contracts are like until you see them in print, but as Passthepotatoes said, he'll either be paid like a starting running back if he starts or as one the highest paid back-ups if he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 It's almost like a try and buy. Since NFL contracts are not guarenteed. If last years performance and his precancerous type attitude continue, they can cut bait and draft/sign someone else, and they are only out this years contract. If he is a good boy, and plays like a proper teammate and not tripping on yard markers he will see some of the extension. Either way it is a win-win for Tenny, other than the draft pick we got. Tenny gets a cheap extension if he does well otherwise he is gone and no further cap hit on their part. For Travis it really is lose-lose. If he does poorly he is probably done and will see no more money from the NFL. If he does well he gets an undervalued contract that is really year to year and he will have to perform at a high level during at least the first 2 years or see the end of his career with relatively little money in the bank. 386008[/snapback] Tennessee's risk is the expenditure of 3 round draft pick. Henry's risk is might be throwing away his career. If he truly knew himself, he would accept a secondary role with Bills and most likely 3 or 4 more seasons of spot duty. Does anyone remember TH was only a backup at Tennessee? His battering ram style delivered a couple of good years, but he's too small to productively sustain that in the NFL. Part and parcel with stupidity, IMO, in that he believes he can be successful in the long run with that lone talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Titans | More about Henry ExtensionTue, 19 Jul 2005 19:37:36 -0700 Updating previous reports, ESPN.com's John Clayton reports RB Travis Henry's four-year contract extension with the Tennessee Titans will pay him about $9.7 million and includes a $4 million team option in 2006. Henry will play for his $1.25 million salary this year with no additional upfront money. If he performs at his normal 1,300-yard level, Henry can turn the deal into a $3 million or $3.5 million contract. What makes this so favorable to the Titans is that they don't have to invest in a running back in next year's draft, something they would have had to do in the first three rounds. 385744[/snapback] Woo, if I'm reading this right, the option for next year is at the clubs option. So, if he has a great season, the titans get him on the cheap. If he has a bad season, they cut him with no further obligation. If your Henry, why would you sign this? These figures cannot be correct. Why not become unrestricted next year if there is absolutely nothing in it for this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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