Pete Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tournament...8&screen=result Guess whos the new chip leader? Fossilman has over a million in chips. A repeat would be the greatest poker feat ever! So much that poker is all luck! Lots other pros still around- Ivey is 7th. Matisow, Ledderer, Dutch Boyd, Sammy Farha, Paul Darden and many other pros still in it. There is 560 people left. I would love to see a Matisow/Raymer table. That would be great TV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tournament...8&screen=result Guess whos the new chip leader? Fossilman has over a million in chips. A repeat would be the greatest poker feat ever! So much that poker is all luck! Lots other pros still around- Ivey is 7th. Matisow, Ledderer, Dutch Boyd, Sammy Farha, Paul Darden and many other pros still in it. There is 560 people left. I would love to see a Matisow/Raymer table. That would be great TV! 380372[/snapback] Local boy, in the top 20 in chips. The musician Tom Sartori. Crazy, but I'm rooting for him for sure. tr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 185 left, including 1994 Champion Russ Hamilton with $365,000. Phil Ivey is 6th overall with $722,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopsGuy Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 A guy from Olean was # 537. That's good for $12,500, or breakeven after the entrance, flight, hotel. At least he wasn't dead money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZC-Boston Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Day 4 should start soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 Updates from yesterday- http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tournament...9&screen=result Matisow is second with over $2million in chips. (I cant stand that POS!). Ivey is 5th with 2million himself. Fossilman slid to 31st with 766,000 in chips. Lederer, Dutch Boyd, Russ Hamilton, John Juanda all knocked out and in the money. Field is down to 58. Tom Sartori is 14th overall with 1,208,000 chips. Of course this is old news- what I am reporting is from the end of yesterday. I wouldnt be surprised if we were down to the final table tomorrow- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I think there are 28 left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 27 left- what a final table this could be! 1 Mike Matusow 5,140,000 Chips 0 117 1 2 Phil Ivey 4,635,000 Chips 0 118 6 3 Steven Dannenmann 4,300,000 Chips 0 129 8 4 John Barch 3,900,000 Chips 0 129 4 5 Greg Raymer 3,840,000 Chips 0 118 1 6 Brad Kondracki 3,160,000 Chips 0 117 9 7 Joseph Hachem 3,125,000 Chips 0 118 7 8 Scott Lazar 3,025,000 Chips 0 9 Michael Kessler 2,700,000 Chips 0 117 2 10 Daniel Bergsdorf 2,550,000 Chips 0 129 6 11 Andrew Black 2,090,000 Chips 0 118 8 12 Minh Ly 2,050,000 Chips 0 129 9 13 Aaron Kanter 1,925,000 Chips 0 117 5 14 Tuan 'Tommy' Vu 1,870,000 Chips 0 129 3 15 Tim Phan 1,575,000 Chips 0 118 2 16 Oskar Silow 1,440,000 Chips 0 129 7 17 Bryant King 1,440,000 Chips 0 129 5 18 Conor Tate 1,265,000 Chips 0 117 7 19 Tiffany Williamson 1,125,000 Chips 0 117 8 20 Joe Connor 1,065,000 Chips 0 118 9 21 Tom Sartori 805,000 Chips 0 117 6 22 Johnny Howard 730,000 Chips 0 117 4 23 Bernard Lee 710,000 Chips 0 24 Per Hildebrand 645,000 Chips 0 118 4 25 John McGrane 575,000 Chips 0 129 1 26 Shahram "Sean" Sheikhan 310,000 Chips 0 117 3 27 Ayhan Alsancak 225,000 Chips 0 118 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 BuffNews story on Sartori this morning How cool is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 BuffNews story on Sartori this morningHow cool is that? 381423[/snapback] Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Final table is today. Ivey and Fossilman are out. Table is down to 9- 1 Aaron Kanter 10,700,000 Chips 0 1 6 2 John Barch 9,330,000 Chips 0 1 3 3 Andrew Black 8,140,000 Chips 0 1 2 4 Mike Matusow 7,410,000 Chips 0 1 5 5 Steven Dannenmann 5,460,000 Chips 0 1 8 6 Joseph Hachem 5,420,000 Chips 0 1 1 7 Daniel Bergsdorf 5,270,000 Chips 0 1 4 8 Scott Lazar 3,370,000 Chips 0 1 9 9 Brad Kondracki 1,180,000 Chips 0 1 7 Good story on Satori but he unfortunately is out as well. Nice ride though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike In Illinois Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I'd like to see anybody but Mike "The Mouth" to win. He came across as a jerk from last year's WSOP coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Final table is today. Ivey and Fossilman are out. Table is down to 9- 1 Aaron Kanter 10,700,000 Chips 0 1 6 2 John Barch 9,330,000 Chips 0 1 3 3 Andrew Black 8,140,000 Chips 0 1 2 4 Mike Matusow 7,410,000 Chips 0 1 5 5 Steven Dannenmann 5,460,000 Chips 0 1 8 6 Joseph Hachem 5,420,000 Chips 0 1 1 7 Daniel Bergsdorf 5,270,000 Chips 0 1 4 8 Scott Lazar 3,370,000 Chips 0 1 9 9 Brad Kondracki 1,180,000 Chips 0 1 7 Good story on Satori but he unfortunately is out as well. Nice ride though! 382581[/snapback] Are any of the remaining guys part of the "pro ranks"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZC-Boston Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Are any of the remaining guys part of the "pro ranks"?? 382653[/snapback] The Mouth Matusow is a pro I believe, not sure about anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 The Mouth Matusow is a pro I believe, not sure about anybody else. 382665[/snapback] So these "other players" "out-skilled" a bunch of pros, including all the previous champs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 So these "other players" "out-skilled" a bunch of pros, including all the previous champs? 382704[/snapback] Yup, pretty much so. People who don't understand the game seem to use the mindset of a 'pro' as if this was golf or baseball, where a regular guy would have no chance at all to beat established stars. Poker skills like risk assessment, reading opponents, etc. are not unique skills. Anyone can learn them over time. Anyone can not learn how to throw a 92 mph fastball or hit a 320 yard drive, you need to be born with that. That is why poker pros win out over the long haul, not necessarily in one tournament. To suggest there is no skill to card games because of the randomness of the cards is simply ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 So these "other players" "out-skilled" a bunch of pros, including all the previous champs? 382704[/snapback] The lack of understanding about the skill of poker does not amaze me. These "other guys" are all highly skilled players. This isn't a group of guys who get together every Friday night to play a game. These guys play thousands of hands per week. They have also spents hundreds or thousands of hours studying the game. Even an average poker player is now a skilled player. A good comparison with sports would be the US Open in golf. Anyone can try to make the cut in the Open. Every year numerous amateurs do make the cut while many pros don't. Over the long haul the PGA pros would consistently beat these amateurs. The WSOP is exactly the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Final table is going on now. Here a link to live audio with Phil Helmouth and Daniel Negranu giving play by play http://www.cardplayer.com/audio/ BTW Aaron Kantner is a poker professinal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 second hand in Lazar goes all in with AAs and Matisow calls with KK. The flop was King- heart-heart. One of Lazar Aces was a heart. Next two cards runner-runner hearts. Matisow lost 3.5 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Mattisow is eliminated on a bad beat. Down to 8 players Mike had a pair of 10s against AJ. The flop was 2 3 5. Mike went all in and induced a 3 million call. The turn was a 4 and the river was a 9. Bad beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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