Niagara Bill Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 59 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Dick Cheney was accused of complicity in fabricating intelligence in a for-profit war. That war left a million people dead, including American sons and daughters, and many more catastrophically injured. Lives were changes, families shattered. You are allowed an arm's length view and the perspective that comes with it...you can sit and drink a Timmy Ho's, contemplate your time at University, plan a holiday. You use the term 'zed', your money is artistic, beautiful and colorful...and your painted ladies dance in the same suits as they were born in often artistic, beautiful and colorful. I ask you, NB, as a casual observer, was Dick Cheney a patriot? Yes, in his mind for sure, but in my mind was questionable. Did Haliburton make billions? Did they convince America about WMD, yes. Did they use 9 11 as a patriotic song, yes. Was Saddam guilty, not about what they said. Cheney and many got richer, the military complex got richer. Canada actually refused to send in troops. The war was used for political reasons. For much of his life, yes, then manipulated for $$$ so, in the end no. But then lots of supporters were not as well. Regime change is not necessarily patriotic. But the balance...they had congressional approval. Did he love his country, with out question. He did follow the constitution and the law. So today's prez gets richer, family gets richer from people he cozied up to like Saudis, he creates wars with Venezuela, has ties to Russia. Ignores historic laws, No Congressional approval, works for less than half the citizens, disrespect his citizens and the constitution. So no.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Yes, in his mind for sure, but in my mind was questionable. Did Haliburton make billions? Did they convince America about WMD, yes. Did they use 9 11 as a patriotic song, yes. Was Saddam guilty, not about what they said. Cheney and many got richer, the military complex got richer. Canada actually refused to send in troops. The war was used for political reasons. For much of his life, yes, then manipulated for $$$ so, in the end no. But then lots of supporters were not as well. Regime change is not necessarily patriotic. But the balance...they had congressional approval. Did he love his country, with out question. He did follow the constitution and the law. So today's prez gets richer, family gets richer from people he cozied up to like Saudis, he creates wars with Venezuela, has ties to Russia. Ignores historic laws, No Congressional approval, works for less than half the citizens, disrespect his citizens and the constitution. So no. So you’re saying no, he wasn’t a patriot from your perspective? You agree with Trump?
Niagara Bill Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: So you’re saying no, he wasn’t a patriot from your perspective? You agree with Trump? Yes, from that perspective, it was a phoney war, but neither are the guys that attacked congress. All those that took action in Desert Storm are patriots. Neither is trump, but I would suggest Pence is. One does not need a perfect life to be a patriot, but doing you best fir the country and ALL citizens is compulsory. Vindictive habits towards citizens is definitely not a trait of a patriot.
JDHillFan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Yes, from that perspective, it was a phoney war, but neither are the guys that attacked congress. All those that took action in Desert Storm are patriots. Neither is trump, but I would suggest Pence is. One does not need a perfect life to be a patriot, but doing you best fir the country and ALL citizens is compulsory. Vindictive habits towards citizens is definitely not a trait of a patriot. Joe Biden referred to Trump supporters as garbage. Hillary Clinton called them deplorables. Many might think that indicates vindictiveness. What does that do for the patriotism score for these two people? You seem to have set yourself up as the arbiter, so I would be interested in hearing what you have to say about these two fine citizens. 1
SectionC3 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 24 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Joe Biden referred to Trump supporters as garbage. Hillary Clinton called them deplorables. Many might think that indicates vindictiveness. What does that do for the patriotism score for these two people? You seem to have set yourself up as the arbiter, so I would be interested in hearing what you have to say about these two fine citizens. And you support a guy who says that Democrats should be hanged. So there were are. 1
JDHillFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 23 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: And you support a guy who says that Democrats should be hanged. So there were are. Do I? i’m sorry if my questions to Niagara Bill upset you. That might have more to do with your love affair with Democrat politicians than the questions themselves. Just a guess.. I’m merely trying to figure out how NB determines who is a good patriot and who is not. thanks for checking in and don’t forget to smash the like button. Have a nice day. Edited 2 hours ago by JDHillFan
SectionC3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: Do I? i’m sorry if my questions to Niagara Bill upset you. That might have more to do with your love affair with Democrat politicians than the questions themselves. Just a guess.. I’m merely trying to figure out how NB determines who is a good patriot and who is not. thanks for checking in and don’t forget to smash the like button. Have a nice day. I’m the guy with an obsession? Why don’t you start by acknowledging what Hillary actually said? Yes, it was stupid and disrespectful. But there’s more to the quote than that to which you alluded. And, snowflakes like you take it out of context because it fits with your performative outrage.
JDHillFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I’m the guy with an obsession? Why don’t you start by acknowledging what Hillary actually said? Yes, it was stupid and disrespectful. But there’s more to the quote than that to which you alluded. And, snowflakes like you take it out of context because it fits with your performative outrage. I didn’t say obsession. I said love affair. Let’s try to be accurate. I know that’s a struggle for you. Nevertheless. That’s an impassioned defense of Hillary Clinton! Good for you, though “what difference, at this point, does it make?” I’m sure she passes Niagara Bill’s patriotism test. That’s what matters.
milfandcookies Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Why are we talking about Cheney and Hillary and whoever else in a thread about Mamdani and Trump’s bromance 2
SectionC3 Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 47 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I didn’t say obsession. I said love affair. Let’s try to be accurate. I know that’s a struggle for you. Nevertheless. That’s an impassioned defense of Hillary Clinton! Good for you, though “what difference, at this point, does it make?” I’m sure she passes Niagara Bill’s patriotism test. That’s what matters. Indeed. What difference does anything she said or did make now? And yet you brought her up again, Anus Man. Gotta let it go.
JDHillFan Posted 13 minutes ago Posted 13 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Indeed. What difference does anything she said or did make now? And yet you brought her up again, Anus Man. Gotta let it go.
Recommended Posts