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12 hours ago, SCBills said:


Democrats don’t want to release it fully because powerful people on their side also don’t want it out. 
 

What they do want to do is selectively release, selectively edit and only disseminate Trump related text, even though none of it implicates him overtly. 
 

If one wants the whole thing released, the thing they have going for them is both sides have played chicken with it for so long by demanding the other release it, that it just might happen. 

They voted on bringing up a vote on the release of all the files.  That's been proposed for months.  what excuse will you use when it passes and trump vetoes it?

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3 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Obama vetoed things, too!!! 

as one of the epstein emails said "let him hang himself".  what struck me about several of the emails is the contempt trump's "friends" had for him.

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28 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

They voted on bringing up a vote on the release of all the files.  That's been proposed for months.  what excuse will you use when it passes and trump vetoes it?


Let’s see how it plays out. 
 

Tracey summarizes where we’re at pretty concisely here. 
 

And no, he’s not “MAGA”.  He’s criticized Trump plenty. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:


Let’s see how it plays out. 
 

Tracey summarizes where we’re at pretty concisely here. 
 

And no, he’s not “MAGA”.  He’s criticized Trump plenty. 
 

 

the emails are incendiary because they're real and show a close relationship between epstein and trump.  I'm glad someone else went through 10's of thousands of emails to find the most relevant.  I wouldn't do it.

 

Re tracey, I don't see any credentials that make him more qualified than I am to be a political commentator.  He has a high school education.  You guys always latch on to these randos....

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Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

the emails are incendiary because they're real and show a close relationship between epstein and trump.  I'm glad someone else went through 10's of thousands of emails to find the most relevant.  I wouldn't do it.

 

Re tracey, I don't see any credentials that make him more qualified than I am to be a political commentator.  He has a high school education.  You guys always latch on to these random....

If there was evidence of trumps wrong doing, why didn't the Biden administration go after him?

 

Now the Epstein files are a big deal?

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5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

the emails are incendiary because they're real and show a close relationship between epstein and trump.  I'm glad someone else went through 10's of thousands of emails to find the most relevant.  I wouldn't do it.

 

Re tracey, I don't see any credentials that make him more qualified than I am to be a political commentator.  He has a high school education.  You guys always latch on to these randos....


We knew they had a relationship.  Where have you been?

 

Epstein ran in a lot of influential circles.

 

He had your beloved New York Times running interference for him if we’re to believe the releases yesterday. 
 

Your entire premise is “these 3 documents are important because they say what we already knew”.  
 

Groundbreaking stuff guys…

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5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

the emails are incendiary because they're real and show a close relationship between epstein and trump.  I'm glad someone else went through 10's of thousands of emails to find the most relevant.  I wouldn't do it.

 

 

No they do not.

 

In fact they show the opposite.

 

They discussed Trump and showed a clear animus towards him.

 

But you cling to this, we all know that it is all you have.

 

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17 hours ago, 4th&long said:

Trump and Maga are scum. Their time is coming. 

Yep no comparison to the Biden family in any way shape or form which are just true upstanding citizens with nothing but truth and justice even if it is made up for all concerned  ... 🙄

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so it begins.  the files are no big deal, it's a hoax, why did no one care about it before.  we should all care and want this out, and i really don't think there's another choice.  i honestly don't think trump was sleeping with young girls, but there's obviously there's something he's trying to hide.  his own actions did him in on this.  you can't parade around binders with photo ops, promising the release.  there's a sudden panic, and the files suddenly can't be released.  he called people who kept talking about it "losers" and told people to stop taking about it.  there's then a meeting with maxwell, and she's suddenly moved to a much more accommodating prison.  i don't know how anyone could deny he's hiding something, whether he's protecting something or someone who knows.

 

the best thing he can do for himself is release the files and let things fall as they may.  we should all want this out there.

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11 minutes ago, SCBills said:


We knew they had a relationship.  Where have you been?

 

Epstein ran in a lot of influential circles.

 

He had your beloved New York Times running interference for him if we’re to believe the releases yesterday. 
 

Your entire premise is “these 3 documents are important because they say what we already knew”.  
 

Groundbreaking stuff guys…

why did you quote a rando calling the emails incendiary?  you seem confused....

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12 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

Small things amuse small minds.

you think the rape of girls is a small thing for small minds?  that's ***** up.

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2 minutes ago, teef said:

so it begins.  the files are no big deal, it's a hoax, why did no one care about it before.  we should all care and want this out, and i really don't think there's another choice.  i honestly don't think trump was sleeping with young girls, but there's obviously there's something he's trying to hide.  his own actions did him in on this.  you can't parade around binders with photo ops, promising the release.  there's a sudden panic, and the files suddenly can't be released.  he called people who kept talking about it "losers" and told people to stop taking about it.  there's then a meeting with maxwell, and she's suddenly moved to a much more accommodating prison.  i don't know how anyone could deny he's hiding something, whether he's protecting something or someone who knows.

 

the best thing he can do for himself is release the files and let things fall as they may.  we should all want this out there.

agreed except the part about sleeping with little girls.  The guy has no moral boundaries.  No shame.  His past sexual behavior is devoid of virtue and full of slime.  what do you think would've have stopped him given an opportunity?

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2 minutes ago, teef said:

 

so it begins. 

 

I honestly spit my coffee out Teef. . . . . . LOL

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile:

 

"Looks terrible — until you learn that [VICTIM] is the late Virginia Giuffre, who had worked for Trump before she fell into Epstein’s clutches, and had publicly said time and again that the future president never misbehaved in the least toward her."

Writes the Editorial Board of the New York Post, in "Epstein emails: The Dems and their lapdogs with laptops cry Wolff again."

 

What an incredibly sleazy move, redacting the name Virginia Giuffre, as if it were to protect her, when her name has already been public, she wrote a book to get her story out, she's told us she believed Trump did nothing wrong, and she's no longer alive. It's plainly and deliberately deceptive, and it's stupid too, because the name was going to come out, as it did in less than one day.

 

Such an idiotic distraction. I'm happy to look at any new evidence about the Epstein story, but I don't want to waste my time on manipulations like this.

 

I refuse to read the NYT article, "Michael Wolff, Chronicler of Elites, Provided Epstein With Advice on Trump/Mr. Wolff was enough of an insider to provide advice to Jeffrey Epstein on how to handle his dealings with Donald J. Trump." 

 

What does "enough of an insider" even mean?? Enough of a Trump hater? I made that a gift link, in case you want to figure out how straight the NYT is playing it.

 

Posted by Ann Althouse

 

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2025/11/looks-terrible-until-you-learn-that.html

 

https://nypost.com/2025/11/12/opinion/epstein-emails-the-dems-and-their-lapdogs-with-laptops-cry-wolff-again/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/business/media/michael-wolff-epstein-trump-emails.html?unlocked_article_code=1.008.4eL_.QbCvCRrLOMS9&smid=url-share

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, teef said:

so it begins.  the files are no big deal, it's a hoax, why did no one care about it before.  we should all care and want this out, and i really don't think there's another choice.  i honestly don't think trump was sleeping with young girls, but there's obviously there's something he's trying to hide.  his own actions did him in on this.  you can't parade around binders with photo ops, promising the release.  there's a sudden panic, and the files suddenly can't be released.  he called people who kept talking about it "losers" and told people to stop taking about it.  there's then a meeting with maxwell, and she's suddenly moved to a much more accommodating prison.  i don't know how anyone could deny he's hiding something, whether he's protecting something or someone who knows.

 

the best thing he can do for himself is release the files and let things fall as they may.  we should all want this out there.

You’re such a liberal sheep! 🤣

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4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

agreed except the part about sleeping with little girls.  The guy has no moral boundaries.  No shame.  His past sexual behavior is devoid of virtue and full of slime.  what do you think would've have stopped him given an opportunity?

Care to answer my question?

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11 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

No they do not.

 

In fact they show the opposite.

 

They discussed Trump and showed a clear animus towards him.

 

But you cling to this, we all know that it is all you have.

 

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all I have?  about trump's morals and lack of decency.  There are literally books full of it including one by his niece.

 

I'm not clinging to anything.  If R's don't go back on their promises, we should have a lot more info shortly.

8 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

I honestly spit my coffee out Teef. . . . . . LOL

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile:

 

"Looks terrible — until you learn that [VICTIM] is the late Virginia Giuffre, who had worked for Trump before she fell into Epstein’s clutches, and had publicly said time and again that the future president never misbehaved in the least toward her."

Writes the Editorial Board of the New York Post, in "Epstein emails: The Dems and their lapdogs with laptops cry Wolff again."

 

What an incredibly sleazy move, redacting the name Virginia Giuffre, as if it were to protect her, when her name has already been public, she wrote a book to get her story out, she's told us she believed Trump did nothing wrong, and she's no longer alive. It's plainly and deliberately deceptive, and it's stupid too, because the name was going to come out, as it did in less than one day.

 

Such an idiotic distraction. I'm happy to look at any new evidence about the Epstein story, but I don't want to waste my time on manipulations like this.

 

I refuse to read the NYT article, "Michael Wolff, Chronicler of Elites, Provided Epstein With Advice on Trump/Mr. Wolff was enough of an insider to provide advice to Jeffrey Epstein on how to handle his dealings with Donald J. Trump." 

 

What does "enough of an insider" even mean?? Enough of a Trump hater? I made that a gift link, in case you want to figure out how straight the NYT is playing it.

 

Posted by Ann Althouse

 

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2025/11/looks-terrible-until-you-learn-that.html

 

https://nypost.com/2025/11/12/opinion/epstein-emails-the-dems-and-their-lapdogs-with-laptops-cry-wolff-again/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/business/media/michael-wolff-epstein-trump-emails.html?unlocked_article_code=1.008.4eL_.QbCvCRrLOMS9&smid=url-share

 

 

 

so release all the files and exonerate trump.  Why not?

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9 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

agreed except the part about sleeping with little girls.  The guy has no moral boundaries.  No shame.  His past sexual behavior is devoid of virtue and full of slime.  what do you think would've have stopped him given an opportunity?

i'm just not ready to put the pedo tag on him.

9 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

I honestly spit my coffee out Teef. . . . . . LOL

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile:

 

"Looks terrible — until you learn that [VICTIM] is the late Virginia Giuffre, who had worked for Trump before she fell into Epstein’s clutches, and had publicly said time and again that the future president never misbehaved in the least toward her."

Writes the Editorial Board of the New York Post, in "Epstein emails: The Dems and their lapdogs with laptops cry Wolff again."

 

What an incredibly sleazy move, redacting the name Virginia Giuffre, as if it were to protect her, when her name has already been public, she wrote a book to get her story out, she's told us she believed Trump did nothing wrong, and she's no longer alive. It's plainly and deliberately deceptive, and it's stupid too, because the name was going to come out, as it did in less than one day.

 

Such an idiotic distraction. I'm happy to look at any new evidence about the Epstein story, but I don't want to waste my time on manipulations like this.

 

I refuse to read the NYT article, "Michael Wolff, Chronicler of Elites, Provided Epstein With Advice on Trump/Mr. Wolff was enough of an insider to provide advice to Jeffrey Epstein on how to handle his dealings with Donald J. Trump." 

 

What does "enough of an insider" even mean?? Enough of a Trump hater? I made that a gift link, in case you want to figure out how straight the NYT is playing it.

 

Posted by Ann Althouse

 

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2025/11/looks-terrible-until-you-learn-that.html

 

https://nypost.com/2025/11/12/opinion/epstein-emails-the-dems-and-their-lapdogs-with-laptops-cry-wolff-again/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/business/media/michael-wolff-epstein-trump-emails.html?unlocked_article_code=1.008.4eL_.QbCvCRrLOMS9&smid=url-share

 

 

 

how do you feel about trumps actions concerning this?  doesn't it seem like hes' trying very hard to hide something?  i have no idea why people refuse to look at the most basic of tells. 

6 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

You’re such a liberal sheep! 🤣

honestly man...get a ***** grip.  you don't care about anything but sides.  don't you think these files should be released?

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The truth is both sides don't want them released because it confirms what most people already know, politicians and people with large sums of money and influence, are scumbags.

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