Christian Benford....not just a zone corner

[GoBills808]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The top four corners in football are Surtain, Sauce, Stingley and McDuffie (and it is Surtain #1 and the other three are close together). You can have an argument about who is #5 and the order thereafter. But anyone who doesn't think those four are the four best guys is simply wrong. 

 

And Benford is definitely in that 5-10 range as well. But low profile, 6th round pick, will take time for him to get all the recognition he is due.

i dunno

 

i usually rank defensive guys a little higher if their offense stinks just because they get more work

 

that moves jaylon johnson and ward up for me, they're legit. especially johnson

 

mcduffie is really good but i might honestly take benford over him for size and more natural cover ability 

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

i dunno

 

i usually rank defensive guys a little higher if their offense stinks just because they get more work

 

that moves jaylon johnson and ward up for me, they're legit. especially johnson

 

mcduffie is really good but i might honestly take benford over him for size and more natural cover ability 

 

I'd have Johnson best of the rest. I do think he is very very good. I don't quite yet have him in the elite. He is similar to where I have Benford. 

 

I'm lower on Ward. I always have been. He has had one great year in the NFL but generally I have always found him a little overrated. When he is good, he is very good, but he gives up too many big plays for me and is too inconsistent at the catch point. 

 

That top 4 has separated pretty clearly to my eye. There are other good corners, don't get me wrong, and I have been banging the Benford drum for as long as anyone - he is excellent and the second best player on the Bills right now - but he is 6th or 7th best in the league for me. I am not saying he is stuck there. He might still be getting better. 

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

mcduffie is really good but i might honestly take benford over him for size and more natural cover ability 

 

Yeah McDuffie has a size problem. We saw it on Mack Hollins' TD in the AFCCG and AJ Brown worked him all night in the SB. I tend to think he is a bit overrated. I'd be interested to see what he would look like outside of KC. L'Jarius Sneed went to Tennessee and became a nobody. Not saying McDuffie would suffer anything close to that kind of drop off but equally I am sure Spagnuolo's scheme maximizes his skill set and covers his flaws.

[GunnerBill]

11 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah McDuffie has a size problem. We saw it on Mack Hollins' TD in the AFCCG and AJ Brown worked him all night in the SB. I tend to think he is a bit overrated. I'd be interested to see what he would look like outside of KC. L'Jarius Sneed went to Tennessee and became a nobody. Not saying McDuffie would suffer anything close to that kind of drop off but equally I am sure Spagnuolo's scheme maximizes his skill set and covers his flaws.

 

So I do think McDuffie is more scheme specific than the other three top guys. I do think that is fair. If he landed with a vanilla DC who just wanted to stick him at LCB down in and down out in a zone scheme and say "play your quarter" I think you would be taking away his special. 

 

But he is different league to Sneed. I always said Sneed was a product of the scheme and overrated. McDuffie is legit. 

[RoscoeParrish]

16 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah McDuffie has a size problem. We saw it on Mack Hollins' TD in the AFCCG and AJ Brown worked him all night in the SB. I tend to think he is a bit overrated. I'd be interested to see what he would look like outside of KC. L'Jarius Sneed went to Tennessee and became a nobody. Not saying McDuffie would suffer anything close to that kind of drop off but equally I am sure Spagnuolo's scheme maximizes his skill set and covers his flaws.

Sneed went to the worst team in football and got hurt.

 

not sure that’s sufficient evidence that McDuffie is overrated because Sneed couldn’t save the Tennessee Titans in 5 games played.