Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 48 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: I agree... Tax breaks are good... I would too if we weren't facing a deficit and interest on the debt crisis. In the meantime, Len wants me to personally lessen those.
JDHillFan Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Len wants me to personally lessen those.
Wolfgang Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I would too if we weren't facing a deficit and interest on the debt crisis. In the meantime, Len wants me to personally lessen those. Interesting... So you support higher taxes for everyone?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: Interesting... So you support higher taxes for everyone? 50% pay no fed income tax...so yep, everyone who does pay with progressive taxation as incomes rise. Maybe, limit any major or any increases to the top 10%. Simultaneously, spending must be cut. Lot's of less destructive places to cut than Medicaid Edited July 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
Wolfgang Posted July 23 Posted July 23 8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: 50% pay no fed income tax...so yep, everyone who does pay with progressive taxation as incomes rise. Maybe, limit any major or any increases to the top 10%. Simultaneously, spending must be cut. Lot's of less destructive places to cut than Medicaid You're on medicaid? What has happened to your benefits?
nedboy7 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 23 hours ago, Tenhigh said: I do? Damn, nobody told me! Is that the new thing here, you guys move on from calling everyone Nazis? 23 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Your perspective seems badly skewed here. Your "guess" is "Epstein's best friend the president is on there proving he is a pedophile", yet this seems incompatible with the notion that JB and team had control of the documents, narrative and major media outlets for 1463 days, and for most of that time, he was the obvious frontrunner for the next 4 year span. That means for nearly 1500 days, he and his team had full possession of the intel and yet he withheld that crucial information from the American people? Is that your contention here, Ned? That JB, Garland and the crew were protecting DJT for four straight years? No, that makes zero sense. Maybe it would have helped if you and yours had pushed JB to scream about what's in the files. Instead, you stopped caring for a while (48 mos +/-) before caring again. Oh well, maybe next time. Edited July 23 by nedboy7 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wolfgang said: You're on medicaid? What has happened to your benefits? i'm on traditional medicare (per my insurance agent, "best insurance you can't buy" and a supplement I buy. Nothing has happened to my coverage except that it has improved this year when I qualified. Much better than the commercial insurance I had thru work. No response to my answer to your question? Edited July 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
The Frankish Reich Posted July 23 Posted July 23 14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: i'm on traditional medicare (per my insurance agent, "best insurance you can't buy" and a supplement I buy. Nothing has happened to my coverage except that it has improved this year when I qualified. Much better than the commercial insurance I had thru work. No response to my answer to your question? I've been helping my elderly parents deal with Medicare, and all I can say is it's a helluva a lot easier than dealing with my immediate family's private insurance. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I've been helping my elderly parents deal with Medicare, and all I can say is it's a helluva a lot easier than dealing with my immediate family's private insurance. The medicare "Advantage" plans have some pretty big holes. Traditional Medicalre is great, for now. Imagine if everyone could buy in. Edited July 23 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
The Frankish Reich Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: The medicare "Advantage" plans have some pretty big holes. Traditional Medicalre is great, for now. Imagine if everyone could buy in. Exactly. The Advantage Plans are an example of how private health insurers used political power to screw a lot of old folks. 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 23 Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: The medicare "Advantage" plans have some pretty big holes. Traditional Medicalre is great, for now. Imagine if everyone could buy in. Weren’t you saying previously that in your practice, that Medicare is as insufficient to cover expenses absent private pay that put the benjies in the docs pocks?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Weren’t you saying previously that in your practice, that Medicare is as insufficient to cover expenses absent private pay that put the benjies in the docs pocks? Medicare has a pretty thin margin for profit. Medicaid does not. Some is better than none. The best payors are commercial but they cost shift thru deductibles which are sometimes difficult to get patients tp pony up. The best patients for making a living are affluent with private insurance. They're also the ones that can afford concierge care which largely takes insurance out of the equation. less and healthier patients,. as much or more money. I don't blame anyone for doing it. I hoped b man would share his insight. Edited July 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
Wolfgang Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: i'm on traditional medicare (per my insurance agent, "best insurance you can't buy" and a supplement I buy. Nothing has happened to my coverage except that it has improved this year when I qualified. Much better than the commercial insurance I had thru work. No response to my answer to your question? If you have no first hand knowledge of losing Medicaid benefits... Do you know someone who has?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: If you have no first hand knowledge of losing Medicaid benefits... Do you know someone who has? the bills hasn't gone into effect. But, yes, I know people who lost Medicaid. Penalty for getting a raise. so what about my response to your earlier question regarding taxes? Edited July 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
Wolfgang Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: the bills hasn't gone into effect. But, yes, I know people who lost Medicaid. Penalty for getting a raise. so what about my response to your earlier question regarding taxes? I don't believe in income taxes for private citizens... The cost of doing business should manifest elsewhere within the financial system... Strictly at the corporate level... 1 2
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Medicare has a pretty thin margin for profit. Medicaid does not. Some is better than none. The best payors are commercial but they cost shift thru deductibles which are sometimes difficult to get patients tp pony up. The best patients for making a living are affluent with private insurance. They're also the ones that can afford concierge care which largely takes insurance out of the equation. less and healthier patients,. as much or more money. I don't blame anyone for doing it. I hoped b man would share his insight. That’s the thing with government programs…they make sense conceptually but don’t work and cannot exist without another organization/corporation doing the heavy lifting. Public employees retire at 55ish, with nice perks like low co-pays and very little out of pocket. A great program for those who are entitled to it, that cannot exist without others working to 65….no 67….no 70 to fund it. Medicare fails without private insurance, and the move to eliminate private insurance puts the govt in charge of all insurance, and of course govt gave us the Medicare system to begin with. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 27 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That’s the thing with government programs…they make sense conceptually but don’t work and cannot exist without another organization/corporation doing the heavy lifting. Public employees retire at 55ish, with nice perks like low co-pays and very little out of pocket. A great program for those who are entitled to it, that cannot exist without others working to 65….no 67….no 70 to fund it. Medicare fails without private insurance, and the move to eliminate private insurance puts the govt in charge of all insurance, and of course govt gave us the Medicare system to begin with. Of course there's cost shifting. It's the basis of our current system. It needn't be. Medicare for all could be collecting those outrageous commercial premiums at a lower cost while paying better. and providing better care. No middle man. very efficient administration costs (much lower than private payers). everyone wins except the commercial insurers who are no longer necessary. 41 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: If you have no first hand knowledge of losing Medicaid benefits... Do you know someone who has? Atlas laughed. Everybody's got to pay their dues.... Edited July 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
Wolfgang Posted July 23 Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Of course there's cost shifting. It's the basis of our current system. It needn't be. Medicare for all could be collecting those outrageous commercial premiums at a lower cost while paying better. and providing better care. No middle man. very efficient administration costs (much lower than private payers). everyone wins except the commercial insurers who are no longer necessary. Atlas laughed Your worship of government is noted... 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wolfgang said: Your worship of government is noted... Death and taxes...everybody's got their dues in life to pay. Edited July 23 by Joe Ferguson forever
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 24 Posted July 24 4 hours ago, nedboy7 said: takes one to know one. 1
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