BillsFanNC Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Ummm Quack. Neuraminidase inhibitors have been around for quite some time. Oseltamivir (Tamiflu) and zanamivir (Ralenza). The last flu pandemic in 2009 came about from a oseltamivir resistant H1N1 strain and its H275Y mutation.
stevestojan Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, JFKjr said: Darn those scientists. We describe plausible mechanisms and argue that the three primary causes of death associated with the excess all-cause mortality during (and after) the Covid period are: (1) Biological (including psychological) stress from mandates such as lockdowns and associated socio-economic structural changes (2) Non-COVID-19-vaccine medical interventions such as mechanical ventilators and drugs (including denial of treatment with antibiotics) 5 (3) COVID-19 vaccine injection rollouts, including repeated rollouts on the same Spatiotemporal Variation of Excess All-Cause Mortality (125 Countries during Covid period 2020-23) Unless you really are that dense, you know I was referring to your DEFLECTION regarding the wholly debunked post about fruits testing positive for Covid. But I’m proud of you for googling and copying and pasting, bud! 3 hours ago, JFKjr said: I'm sorry you've got mRNA in your system. While I don't agree with a lot of your views, I wish everyone here the best of health. It can't be easy with the ramifications of mRNA hanging over your head like the Sword of Damocles. So you’re 100% in the cult and don’t even try to hide it anymore, huh? The “ramifications of mRNA.” 😂😂😂 Holy hell, they let you vote. Edited August 11 by stevestojan 1
The Frankish Reich Posted August 12 Posted August 12 14 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: In the simplest terms an immune response occurs when your body recognizes something as non self. Distinguishing self from non self antigens is a hallmark of immunity. Autoimmune disorders occur when your immune system generates an immune response against "self" antigens. So Quack is right about this. A vaccine delivers a fragment or attenuated version of the pathogen to illicit an immune response without causing illness. This primes the immune system with memory cells and antibodies to respond to future challenges from the pathogen. That's it. There's nothing in the definition that says a vaccine absolutely prevents future infection. This is because no vaccine exists that is 100% effective. Not measles. Not polio. Not flu. Not covid. This is especially true of vaccines for rapidly mutating respiratory viruses such as covid. So if you're a 70 year old obese diabetic with heart disease you take the vaccine even knowing it probably won't prevent infection, but it almost certainly will reduce the severity of your symptoms if you do get infected. When you're old with chronic disease this can be the difference between living and dying. Even in a healthy 70 year old an immune response to a vaccine isn't going to be as robust as with a healthy 20 year old. Just as with everything else when we age our immune systems aren't what they once were when we were younger. So when you're under 25 and healthy as a horse getting the covid vaccine might make the difference between feeling crappy for a little shorter time. Don't know about you guys, but I find this ChatGPT version of Tarheel much more rational. Where's the stupid insult involving bodily fluids and f**k? Where's the paranoid style we've come to love and abhor? I think he should stick with the AI responses. Can pass for sane and semi-intelligent. Let's encourage him. 1
Wolfgang Posted August 12 Posted August 12 8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Don't know about you guys, but I find this ChatGPT version of Tarheel much more rational. Where's the stupid insult involving bodily fluids and f**k? Where's the paranoid style we've come to love and abhor? I think he should stick with the AI responses. Can pass for sane and semi-intelligent. Let's encourage him.
BillsFanNC Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) I find the Biden is mentally fit version of Finding endlessly hilarious. Embarrassing. How's your summer vacation going Finding? Get that red pen fired up. 8th grade grammar class will be here before you know it. . Edited August 12 by BillsFanNC
JFKjr Posted August 12 Posted August 12 13 hours ago, stevestojan said: Unless you really are that dense, you know I was referring to your DEFLECTION regarding the wholly debunked post about fruits testing positive for Covid. But I’m proud of you for googling and copying and pasting, bud! So you’re 100% in the cult and don’t even try to hide it anymore, huh? The “ramifications of mRNA.” 😂😂😂 Holy hell, they let you vote. I don't object to you getting jabbed with as much mRNA as you'd like. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12 Posted August 12 33 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I find the Biden is mentally fit version of Finding endlessly hilarious. Embarrassing. How's your summer vacation going Finding? Get that red pen fired up. 8th grade grammar class will be here before you know it. . trump is mentally fit: Asked a specific question about whether other cities like Chicago and Los Angeles might expect similar action involving the use of the National Guard to combat crime, Trump said, in part, this: “But when I look at Chicago and I look at LA, if we didn’t go to LA three months ago, LA would be burning like the part that didn’t burn. If you would’ve allowed the water to come down, which I told them about in my first term, I said, 'You’re going to have problems, let it come down'. We actually sent in our military to have the water come down into LA. They still didn’t want it to come down after the fires. But that was it, we have it coming down. But hopefully LA is watching. That mayor also, the city is burning, they lost like 25,000 homes. I went there the day after the fire, you were there, and I saw people standing in front of a burned-down home. Their homes were incinerated, they weren’t like, even the steel, literally it was all warped, literally disintegrated because of the winds and the flames like a blow torch. They were standing on this beautiful day, maybe a couple of days after, we gave it a little time because of what they had suffered. Almost 25,000 homes. And you see what’s happening now, they didn’t give their permits. I went to a town hall meeting I said we’re going to get you the federal permit, which are much harder.” 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 12 Posted August 12 More from the let's ***** with basic PCR cycle threshold values to get the narrative we want files. Ct value cutoff > 35 purposely generates false positives. Ct value cutoff < 30 purposely generates false negatives. Imagine that. What's more dangerous to Grandma...a false positive where a patient thinks he's sick but isn't, or a false negative where a patient thinks he's healthy but he's actually sick? 1
stevestojan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, JFKjr said: I don't object to you getting jabbed with as much mRNA as you'd like. So still no comment on how I called you out about posting yet another debunked conspiracy theory huh? Just poor attempts at “insults?” Your side of the aisle is awful at this.
JFKjr Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 46 minutes ago, stevestojan said: So still no comment on how I called you out about posting yet another debunked conspiracy theory huh? Just poor attempts at “insults?” Your side of the aisle is awful at this. With our weaponized news media you can call anything 'debunked.' The claims of the Covid vaccine being "safe and effective" have been thoroughly debunked simply by watching the pandemic play out. It was supposed to keep people from contracting Covid, and after the Summer of 'Breakthrough Infections' they decided is was only intended to make the infection 'not as bad' or 'keep you out of the hospital' or 'prevent death.' None of which could be proven. And the whole rationale for "vaccine mandates" fell apart because there was no reason to mandate something that didn't prevent the spread of Covid. Yet they continued mandating until the courts stopped them. The Democratic Party and the Libnuts who support it are completely discredited. Along with your liberal news media and 'debunked' reports. Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid has been 'debunked.' I have seen it work firsthand. Go Debunk Yourself. Edited August 12 by JFKjr 1
stevestojan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 19 minutes ago, JFKjr said: With our weaponized news media you can call anything 'debunked.' The claims of the Covid vaccine being "safe and effective" have been thoroughly debunked simply by watching the pandemic play out. It was supposed to keep people from contracting Covid, and after the Summer of 'Breakthrough Infections' they decided is was only intended to make the infection 'not as bad' or 'keep you out of the hospital' or 'prevent death.' None of which could be proven. And the whole rationale for "vaccine mandates" fell apart because there was no reason to mandate something that didn't prevent the spread of Covid. Yet they continued mandating until the courts stopped them. The Democratic Party and the Libnuts who support it are completely discredited. Along with your liberal news media and 'debunked' reports. Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid has been 'debunked.' I have seen it work firsthand. Go Debunk Yourself. “”Fruit tested positive for COVID!!” You see, when you post absolute nonsense like that, from some random guy on Twitter, it takes away from all the credibility you might have in the other points you make above. In fact, I don’t disagree with most of them. But then you throw out the - again, wholly debunked - one about fruit testing positive for COVID and people tend to look at you like a conspiracy theory moron. My point? Maybe take the 5 seconds to google the things you post; same amount of time it took you to copy/paste that weirdo tweet, and then maybe people won’t laugh at the rest of your posts. Just trying to help you out, bud. “Go debunk yourself.” Your side really is brutally bad at attempts at humor. Edited August 12 by stevestojan
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: More from the let's ***** with basic PCR cycle threshold values to get the narrative we want files. Ct value cutoff > 35 purposely generates false positives. Ct value cutoff < 30 purposely generates false negatives. Imagine that. What's more dangerous to Grandma...a false positive where a patient thinks he's sick but isn't, or a false negative where a patient thinks he's healthy but he's actually sick? remember when i asked you what happens when you maximize sensitivity? or specificity and you didn't answer? They are inversely related. the cdc link here is nonexistent. hmmmm.... Edited August 12 by Joe Ferguson forever
JFKjr Posted August 12 Posted August 12 23 minutes ago, stevestojan said: “”Fruit tested positive for COVID!!” You see, when you post absolute nonsense like that, from some random guy on Twitter, it takes away from all the credibility you might have in the other points you make above. In fact, I don’t disagree with most of them. But then you throw out the - again, wholly debunked - one about fruit testing positive for COVID and people tend to look at you like a conspiracy theory moron. My point? Maybe take the 5 seconds to google the things you post; same amount of time it took you to copy/paste that weirdo tweet, and then maybe people won’t laugh at the rest of your posts. Just trying to help you out, bud. “Go debunk yourself.” Your side really is brutally bad at attempts at humor. There is little doubt that there were excess false positives in the Covid testing, which was done at much higher than recommended cycles. Additionally the test was never intended as a diagnostic, per the inventor of the PCR test. The Covid-19 jabs themselves ARE the conspiracy. You fell for it. Case closed. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted August 12 Posted August 12 3 hours ago, JFKjr said: I don't object to you getting jabbed with as much mRNA as you'd like. Luddite. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, JFKjr said: There is little doubt that there were excess false positives in the Covid testing, which was done at much higher than recommended cycles. Additionally the test was never intended as a diagnostic, per the inventor of the PCR test. The Covid-19 jabs themselves ARE the conspiracy. You fell for it. Case closed. please explain how I'm branded, Amazon echo's, fire tv's and cookies are some of the things you should be concerned with. but then again, no one likely cares about what you do. Edited August 12 by Joe Ferguson forever
JDHillFan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: please explain how I'm branded, Amazon echo's, fire tv's and cookies are some of the things you should be concerned with. but then again, no one likely cares about what you do. Don’t listen to him @JFKjr I care!
BillsFanNC Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) - Biden is mentally fit (Finding) - By all accounts Biden speaks better than he did decades ago. (Quack) Two embarrassingly ludicrous takes for the ages from two laughingstock fuk.c stains. Edited August 12 by BillsFanNC
The Frankish Reich Posted August 12 Posted August 12 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: - Biden is mentally fit (Finding) - By all accounts Biden speaks better than he did decades ago. (Quack) Two embarrassingly ludicrous takes for the ages from two laughingstock fuk.c stains. Go back to posting your ChatGPT results! 1
JFKjr Posted August 12 Posted August 12 54 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Luddite. I don't object to you being the guinea pig for a new medical gene therapy that hadn't been tested on humans. Here is the distribution of spike proteins from the Covid vaccine in mice. It's unfortunate that so much is in the brain.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Go back to posting your ChatGPT results! That was his best post ever.
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