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Political Violence. Where do you stand?  

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  1. 1. Were those who engaged in violence at the US Capitol on J6 wrong?

  2. 2. Are those who are engaging in ongoing violence against Tesla dealerships, charging stations and vehicles wrong?

  3. 3. Was the assassination of Charlie Kirk wrong?

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These people are GONE. Fully demoralized.

 

To understand any of these “right wing terrorism” graphs and claims just remember the entire left accepted uncritically that because a five follower account had a playlist of ciao Bella ciao, that the song was a groyper meme, and the shooter therefore was a groyper. Yet when the investigators, the mother, the trans-girlfriend and the shooter himself explained his left leaning beliefs, the media remains skeptical of the left wing label.

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9 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

It doesn’t matter to you because of your political preferences. In reality it does matter and the left has become increasingly unhinged and violent. 
 


Trump is a jackass and I will be glad when he’s gone. Also:

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Fascist, existential threat to democracy, etc. 

Yes, the left is starting to catch up to the right in being unhinged and violent.  Of course it matters, what matters to me is that both sides start pointing the finger at themselves instead of the other side.  That's when change can actually happen.  When both sides are aware and acknowledge they are part of the problem.

No argument from me about Biden either, agree.  Him and Trump are their own blatant crime syndicates.  As are their handlers for covering up both's dementia creep in office.

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4 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

Yes, the left is starting to catch up to the right in being unhinged and violent.  Of course it matters, what matters to me is that both sides start pointing the finger at themselves instead of the other side.  That's when change can actually happen.  When both sides are aware and acknowledge they are part of the problem.

No argument from me about Biden either, agree.  Him and Trump are their own blatant crime syndicates.  As are their handlers for covering up both's dementia creep in office.

The left has far surpassed the right as far as violence.

 

Jesus.

Posted
9 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

It does matter whose trending now.

 

And that trend is left.

what matters to me is that politically motivated shootings are on the rise.  I'd rather not see the right wingers try and score some points to balance the trend.

9 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

Trying to both sides this and the "of course the assassination of Charlie Kirk is horrendous but...." takes are why the left is justifiably being shunned and the sane part of the country is just moving on without you.

Simply put, the politically motivated violence needs to stop.  There are plenty of examples from both sides and the fact that you feel the need to try and equivocate to pick a side means this country really needs to move on without YOU.

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5 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

what matters to me is that politically motivated shootings are on the rise.  I'd rather not see the right wingers try and score some points to balance the trend.

Simply put, the politically motivated violence needs to stop.  There are plenty of examples from both sides and the fact that you feel the need to try and equivocate to pick a side means this country really needs to move on without YOU.

There is nothing to balance Gary.

 

Most of the violence has been on the left.

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Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

There is nothing to balance Gary.

 

Most of the violence has been on the left.

😂  Ugh, the right wing bubble.  https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/comparison-political-violence-left-wing-right-wing-and-islamist-extremists-united

 

" In this research we address these gaps by comparing the use of political violence by left-wing, right-wing, and Islamist extremists in the United States and worldwide using two unique datasets that cover real-world examples of politically motivated, violent behaviors. Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. In the United States, we find no difference between the level of violence perpetrated by right-wing and Islamist extremists."

 

So no X ramblings here.  Just another academic research paper that again doesn't support your statements.

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17 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

😂  Ugh, the right wing bubble.  https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/comparison-political-violence-left-wing-right-wing-and-islamist-extremists-united

 

" In this research we address these gaps by comparing the use of political violence by left-wing, right-wing, and Islamist extremists in the United States and worldwide using two unique datasets that cover real-world examples of politically motivated, violent behaviors. Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. In the United States, we find no difference between the level of violence perpetrated by right-wing and Islamist extremists."

 

So no X ramblings here.  Just another academic research paper that again doesn't support your statements.

What years was this data pulled from?

 

How bout the last 10 years?

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17 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

What years was this data pulled from?

 

How bout the last 10 years?

The paper's from 22, the first from 24.  But you keep pretending political violence isn't a big problem on the right as well.

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3 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

The paper's from 22, the first from 24.  But you keep pretending political violence isn't a big problem on the right as well.

What years was the data pulled from, not when it was published.

 

I'm not saying violent on the right doesn't exist, I'm saying that left leaning violence has been on the rise lately. That's all.

 

 

Historically, there have been bad actors on both sides.

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12 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

What years was the data pulled from, not when it was published.

 

I'm not saying violent on the right doesn't exist, I'm saying that left leaning violence has been on the rise lately. That's all.

 

 

Historically, there have been bad actors on both sides.

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https://www.alexnowrasteh.com/p/deadly-politically-motivated-violence   Since 2020, 12 right wing incidents, 9 left wing.  44 right-caused deaths, 18 left-caused deaths.  I can't hold your hand any more than this.  Even since 2020 the right still holds the edge, since you want to keep score.  And yeah, incidents of left leaning violence has been on the rise as historically, (except for the mid-eighties)  right wing violence has been dominant.  But you keep trying to pretend one side is more sane than the other.   It's not helpful to addressing the problem.

Posted
13 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

I don't know what he's referring to, but my research says INCORRECT.   Michael Reinoehl, August 29, 2020.  But keep posting your X BS.

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1 minute ago, GaryPinC said:

I don't know what he's referring to, but my research says INCORRECT.   Michael Reinoehl, August 29, 2020.  But keep posting your X BS.

 Link? Citation? Or is "my research says" sufficient ?

 

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