Another Fan Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 @Gugny @ExWNYer @SinceThe70s Brutal. Team doesn't even deserve to be in the playoffs if this keeps up. The only positive note is McLean looks more and more like the real deal.
Gugny Posted September 12 Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Another Fan said: @Gugny @ExWNYer @SinceThe70s Brutal. Team doesn't even deserve to be in the playoffs if this keeps up. The only positive note is McLean looks more and more like the real deal. Insane collapse. That’s all I can say right now. Actually … one more thing. F*ck off to all the Yankee fans who wanted Soto to fail.
SinceThe70s Posted September 12 Posted September 12 14 hours ago, Another Fan said: @Gugny @ExWNYer @SinceThe70s Brutal. Team doesn't even deserve to be in the playoffs if this keeps up. The only positive note is McLean looks more and more like the real deal. 14 hours ago, Gugny said: Insane collapse. That’s all I can say right now. Actually … one more thing. F*ck off to all the Yankee fans who wanted Soto to fail. Which collapse? June (3-14), August (2-14) or September (4-10 so far)? During the August swoon I was still convinced we'd make the playoffs, not so much today. This team has all the hallmarks of a .500 team, which shouldn't be the case given the talent. Can't wait to see what happens tonight against deGrom.
Gugny Posted September 12 Posted September 12 20 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Which collapse? June (3-14), August (2-14) or September (4-10 so far)? During the August swoon I was still convinced we'd make the playoffs, not so much today. This team has all the hallmarks of a .500 team, which shouldn't be the case given the talent. Can't wait to see what happens tonight against deGrom. I was referring, basically, to how they’ve been playing since they were 20 games above .500. 1
Another Fan Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 37 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Which collapse? June (3-14), August (2-14) or September (4-10 so far)? During the August swoon I was still convinced we'd make the playoffs, not so much today. This team has all the hallmarks of a .500 team, which shouldn't be the case given the talent. Can't wait to see what happens tonight against deGrom. I thought when they swept the Phillies at home a couple weeks ago they were back on track. 🤷🏼♂️ 1
SinceThe70s Posted September 12 Posted September 12 2 hours ago, Gugny said: I was referring, basically, to how they’ve been playing since they were 20 games above .500. What gets me is they've also rebounded multiple times. 1
SinceThe70s Posted September 24 Posted September 24 @Another Fan @Gugny @ExWNYer The roller coaster ride continues. Maybe their best win of the season tonight. I went to the game last Friday against the Nats. I thought that was the beginning of a great Mets weekend, not so much. BTW, 5-0 this year for games attended! I tend to be a fan with rose colored glasses but I have low expectations for this year, hope they prove me wrong. 1
Gugny Posted September 24 Posted September 24 6 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: @Another Fan @Gugny @ExWNYer The roller coaster ride continues. Maybe their best win of the season tonight. I went to the game last Friday against the Nats. I thought that was the beginning of a great Mets weekend, not so much. BTW, 5-0 this year for games attended! I tend to be a fan with rose colored glasses but I have low expectations for this year, hope they prove me wrong. Best part about the win (IMO) …. Eddie Diaz’ six-out save. Great win, all around. We can’t lose another game. LET’S GO! 1
Another Fan Posted September 24 Author Posted September 24 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Best part about the win (IMO) …. Eddie Diaz’ six-out save. Great win, all around. We can’t lose another game. LET’S GO! I think similar to the Nats the Pirates will give a good effort against the Reds. While their next series against the Brewers seems hard…. I think the Brewers will have it all rapped up then and won’t really be trying Yeah gotta win out
ExWNYer Posted September 28 Posted September 28 @SinceThe70s @Gugny @Another Fan It all comes down to today. Need a win with awful Manaea on the bump coupled with a Reds loss. Not feeling great but this is where they find themselves, sadly. Regardless of whether or not they make it into the playoffs, this has been the least fun "winning" season in Mets history, IMO. LGM... GO BILLS!!!!! 1
Another Fan Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 6 hours ago, ExWNYer said: @SinceThe70s @Gugny @Another Fan It all comes down to today. Need a win with awful Manaea on the bump coupled with a Reds loss. Not feeling great but this is where they find themselves, sadly. Regardless of whether or not they make it into the playoffs, this has been the least fun "winning" season in Mets history, IMO. LGM... GO BILLS!!!!! Good hearing from you Ex WNyer @Gugny @SinceThe70s Im sure I’ll have more to analyze as the weeks go on but my first thought was the last few months they never felt or deserved to be a playoff team. The Reds were more deserving. That being said it still sucks. The thing that bothered me the most this weekend was the Marlins looked and acted like they wanted to win more. 1
Gugny Posted September 29 Posted September 29 @ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Another Fan Well, fellas … ouch. I still believe in Stearns and expect him to make some necessary decisions. We need to get younger and - obviously - better. I don’t care who stays or goes. There is no place for nostalgia or soft spots. I do, however, hope Mendoza is retained. That said - if there’s someone better and available, I’d never poo pop an upgrade. Should be a good off season. It was fun to follow the season with you guys. Looking forward to doing it again in 2026. LFGM 2
SinceThe70s Posted September 29 Posted September 29 7 hours ago, Gugny said: @ExWNYer @SinceThe70s @Another Fan Well, fellas … ouch. I still believe in Stearns and expect him to make some necessary decisions. We need to get younger and - obviously - better. I don’t care who stays or goes. There is no place for nostalgia or soft spots. I do, however, hope Mendoza is retained. That said - if there’s someone better and available, I’d never poo pop an upgrade. Should be a good off season. It was fun to follow the season with you guys. Looking forward to doing it again in 2026. LFGM @ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan I'm not gonna lie, yesterdays loss did not bother me as much as one might think. Unfortunately I came to the realization a week or two ago that this group did not have an extended run in them - although I would've preferred to see them get the chance to prove me wrong. In the end their strong start to the season masked how bad they've been for months to me. As for Stearns and Mendoza, I'm not a pitchforks and torches type fan and I'd give them a pass this year because of how things went last year. Plus, I never got the impression that Mendoza lost clubhouse. I'm more down on Stearns, with the benefit of hindsight his starting pitching plan fell woefully short. It will be very interesting to see how they approach this off-season. Front and center is Pete, but Bor-ass will drag it out like he always does and unfortunately Vientos as the backup plan to Pete isn't all that appealing anymore . Personally I think they need to make some tough decisions wrt Vientos, Baty, McNeil, Acuna and Mauricio - none of them stood out to me. Looking forward to hearing all your thoughts. In the mean time thankfully we have the Bills to transition to! 1
Gugny Posted September 29 Posted September 29 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: @ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan I'm not gonna lie, yesterdays loss did not bother me as much as one might think. Unfortunately I came to the realization a week or two ago that this group did not have an extended run in them - although I would've preferred to see them get the chance to prove me wrong. In the end their strong start to the season masked how bad they've been for months to me. As for Stearns and Mendoza, I'm not a pitchforks and torches type fan and I'd give them a pass this year because of how things went last year. Plus, I never got the impression that Mendoza lost clubhouse. I'm more down on Stearns, with the benefit of hindsight his starting pitching plan fell woefully short. It will be very interesting to see how they approach this off-season. Front and center is Pete, but Bor-ass will drag it out like he always does and unfortunately Vientos as the backup plan to Pete isn't all that appealing anymore . Personally I think they need to make some tough decisions wrt Vientos, Baty, McNeil, Acuna and Mauricio - none of them stood out to me. Looking forward to hearing all your thoughts. In the mean time thankfully we have the Bills to transition to! We are definitely aligned. I love Squirrel, but he’s toast. And I would not be comfortable moving forward with Vientos as an everyday player. Same with Baty and everyone else on your list. 1
ExWNYer Posted September 30 Posted September 30 7 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: @ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan I'm not gonna lie, yesterdays loss did not bother me as much as one might think. Unfortunately I came to the realization a week or two ago that this group did not have an extended run in them - although I would've preferred to see them get the chance to prove me wrong. In the end their strong start to the season masked how bad they've been for months to me. As for Stearns and Mendoza, I'm not a pitchforks and torches type fan and I'd give them a pass this year because of how things went last year. Plus, I never got the impression that Mendoza lost clubhouse. I'm more down on Stearns, with the benefit of hindsight his starting pitching plan fell woefully short. It will be very interesting to see how they approach this off-season. Front and center is Pete, but Bor-ass will drag it out like he always does and unfortunately Vientos as the backup plan to Pete isn't all that appealing anymore . Personally I think they need to make some tough decisions wrt Vientos, Baty, McNeil, Acuna and Mauricio - none of them stood out to me. Looking forward to hearing all your thoughts. In the mean time thankfully we have the Bills to transition to! @Gugny @Another Fan Nice analysis. Thanks for the insight. This has been death by a thousand paper cuts since mid-June. I was honestly ready for them to be euthanized. I'm done with baseball this year, thankfully. I might peek in at some point but there's a good chance I won't. Just don't let it be the Phils, Dodgers, or Skanks...please, baseball gods. You can throw the Cubs into that mix, as well. I have oddly always had a weird hatred for them. I think it stems from the Harry Carey homerism, but I digress. Stearns announced today that Mendy is staying. There were reports that there would be a shakeup with the coaching staff. Okay, whatever. That's just "lipstick on a pig" to me. I'm fine with Mendoza staying, I would have been just as fine had they fired him. I'm ambivalent and I have been squarely in his corner from the get go. I think he made a lot of head scratching moves down the stretch and his handling of the bullpen was bush league, IMO. I hope he learns from his numerous mistakes this year and grows because he is out of rope with me. Stearns needs to learn and grow, as well. Almost every deadline move he made was horrendous. In fairness to him, a lot of those moves looked like they would be good at the time. Still, they almost all failed so I'm less inclined to give him partial credit. He is largely responsible for the current build in Milwaukee so he knows how to properly construct a club but there is a lot to be done with this squad. This core is just not working. A new approach is needed. I can't wait for the Hot Stove season. IMO, Stearns can take this roster down to the studs, save for Soto, Lindor, and Torrens. Hopefully McLean, Sproat, & Tong (still not convinced he's quite ready for the big show) can comprise the top of the rotation next year at some point, if not at the start of the year. They need an ace in the worst way but I don't know how they can go about that. Figure it out, Stearns. Here is who I would like to "Definitely" keep, "Definitely/Maybe" keep (a "tweener"...not a "Definite" but more than a "Maybe"), "Maybe" keep, "Not sure" (insufficient data), and say "Buh-bye". This is keeping in mind that some of these guys are already FAs and not coming back or may end up in the minors because they were stop-gap measures. Pitchers Huascar Brazoban - Maybe Edwin Diaz - Definitely (may lose him to the opt out) Justin Hagenman - Not sure (insufficient data) Ryan Helsley - Buh-bye Clay Holmes - Definitely (possible late inning pen) Sean Manaea - Maybe Nolan McLean - Definitely (future ace?) David Peterson - Definitely/Maybe (he has a lot to prove after a disastrous second half) Jonathan Pintaro - Not sure (insufficient data) Brooks Raley - Definitely Tyler Rogers - Maybe Dylan Ross - Not sure (insufficient data) Kodai Senga - Maybe Gregory Soto - Maybe Brandon Sproat - Definitely Ryne Stanek - Maybe Jonah Tong - Definitely (might have to start the year at AAA) Brandon Wadell - Maybe Austin Warren - Not sure (insufficient data) Catchers Francisco Alvarez - Definitely/Maybe (if he could bring back some crucial pieces in a trade, I'd be willing to listen) Hayden Senger - Not sure (insufficient data)...probably in the minors Luis Torrens - Definitely Infielders - Next to the pitching staff, it's crucial that they sort out the IF and settle on some guys whether they are here now or acquire them via acquisition Luisangel Acuna - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait) Pete Alonso - Definitely Brett Baty - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait) Francisco Lindor - Definitely Ronny Mauricio - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait) Jeff McNeil - Buh-bye (get what you can in a trade) Mark Vientos - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait)...as the season wore on, I resorted to calling him 'Swaggy K' for his constant, awful strikeouts Outfielders - They need a true CFer who can hit Starling Marte - Buh-bye Cedric Mullins - Buh-bye Brandon Nimmo - Definitely/Maybe (would be willing to flip him in the right deal) Juan Soto - Definitely Tyrone Taylor - Definitely Jared Young - Buh-bye Injured List (IL) SP Griffin Canning - Maybe (possible long relief) RP Reed Garrett (probable Tommy John surgery so not giving a designation) RP Max Kranick - Definitely/Maybe SP Tylor Megill (probable Tommy John surgery so not giving a designation) RP A.J. Minter - Definitely (might be the closer if Diaz walks after opting out) SP Frankie Montas - Buh-bye (probable Tommy John surgery) RP Dedniel Nunez - Definitely SP Christian Scott - Definitely RP Drew Smith - Definitely/Maybe RP Danny Young - Definitely/Maybe IF Nick Magrigal - Buh-bye DH/OF Jessie Winker - Definitely Anyway, that's my take fellas. Sorry for the long post. As always, your feedback is welcome. LGM! and LET'S GO BILLS!!! 1
SinceThe70s Posted September 30 Posted September 30 7 hours ago, ExWNYer said: @Gugny @Another Fan Nice analysis. Thanks for the insight. This has been death by a thousand paper cuts since mid-June. I was honestly ready for them to be euthanized. I'm done with baseball this year, thankfully. I might peek in at some point but there's a good chance I won't. Just don't let it be the Phils, Dodgers, or Skanks...please, baseball gods. You can throw the Cubs into that mix, as well. I have oddly always had a weird hatred for them. I think it stems from the Harry Carey homerism, but I digress. Stearns announced today that Mendy is staying. There were reports that there would be a shakeup with the coaching staff. Okay, whatever. That's just "lipstick on a pig" to me. I'm fine with Mendoza staying, I would have been just as fine had they fired him. I'm ambivalent and I have been squarely in his corner from the get go. I think he made a lot of head scratching moves down the stretch and his handling of the bullpen was bush league, IMO. I hope he learns from his numerous mistakes this year and grows because he is out of rope with me. Stearns needs to learn and grow, as well. Almost every deadline move he made was horrendous. In fairness to him, a lot of those moves looked like they would be good at the time. Still, they almost all failed so I'm less inclined to give him partial credit. He is largely responsible for the current build in Milwaukee so he knows how to properly construct a club but there is a lot to be done with this squad. This core is just not working. A new approach is needed. I can't wait for the Hot Stove season. IMO, Stearns can take this roster down to the studs, save for Soto, Lindor, and Torrens. Hopefully McLean, Sproat, & Tong (still not convinced he's quite ready for the big show) can comprise the top of the rotation next year at some point, if not at the start of the year. They need an ace in the worst way but I don't know how they can go about that. Figure it out, Stearns. Here is who I would like to "Definitely" keep, "Definitely/Maybe" keep (a "tweener"...not a "Definite" but more than a "Maybe"), "Maybe" keep, "Not sure" (insufficient data), and say "Buh-bye". This is keeping in mind that some of these guys are already FAs and not coming back or may end up in the minors because they were stop-gap measures. Pitchers Huascar Brazoban - Maybe Edwin Diaz - Definitely (may lose him to the opt out) Justin Hagenman - Not sure (insufficient data) Ryan Helsley - Buh-bye Clay Holmes - Definitely (possible late inning pen) Sean Manaea - Maybe Nolan McLean - Definitely (future ace?) David Peterson - Definitely/Maybe (he has a lot to prove after a disastrous second half) Jonathan Pintaro - Not sure (insufficient data) Brooks Raley - Definitely Tyler Rogers - Maybe Dylan Ross - Not sure (insufficient data) Kodai Senga - Maybe Gregory Soto - Maybe Brandon Sproat - Definitely Ryne Stanek - Maybe Jonah Tong - Definitely (might have to start the year at AAA) Brandon Wadell - Maybe Austin Warren - Not sure (insufficient data) Catchers Francisco Alvarez - Definitely/Maybe (if he could bring back some crucial pieces in a trade, I'd be willing to listen) Hayden Senger - Not sure (insufficient data)...probably in the minors Luis Torrens - Definitely Infielders - Next to the pitching staff, it's crucial that they sort out the IF and settle on some guys whether they are here now or acquire them via acquisition Luisangel Acuna - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait) Pete Alonso - Definitely Brett Baty - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait) Francisco Lindor - Definitely Ronny Mauricio - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait) Jeff McNeil - Buh-bye (get what you can in a trade) Mark Vientos - Definitely/Maybe (possible trade bait)...as the season wore on, I resorted to calling him 'Swaggy K' for his constant, awful strikeouts Outfielders - They need a true CFer who can hit Starling Marte - Buh-bye Cedric Mullins - Buh-bye Brandon Nimmo - Definitely/Maybe (would be willing to flip him in the right deal) Juan Soto - Definitely Tyrone Taylor - Definitely Jared Young - Buh-bye Injured List (IL) SP Griffin Canning - Maybe (possible long relief) RP Reed Garrett (probable Tommy John surgery so not giving a designation) RP Max Kranick - Definitely/Maybe SP Tylor Megill (probable Tommy John surgery so not giving a designation) RP A.J. Minter - Definitely (might be the closer if Diaz walks after opting out) SP Frankie Montas - Buh-bye (probable Tommy John surgery) RP Dedniel Nunez - Definitely SP Christian Scott - Definitely RP Drew Smith - Definitely/Maybe RP Danny Young - Definitely/Maybe IF Nick Magrigal - Buh-bye DH/OF Jessie Winker - Definitely Anyway, that's my take fellas. Sorry for the long post. As always, your feedback is welcome. LGM! and LET'S GO BILLS!!! I love how you put Acuna, Baty, Mauricio and Vientos all under Definitely/Maybe. I don't think they should dump all of them or keep all of them, but they can't go into next year with all of them again. I'm inclined to see what Acuna can do full time at second - love his defense and speed. And I really don't want to give up on Mauricio but I'm also not ready to hand him 3B. 1
Another Fan Posted October 1 Author Posted October 1 On 9/29/2025 at 1:51 PM, SinceThe70s said: @ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan I'm not gonna lie, yesterdays loss did not bother me as much as one might think. Unfortunately I came to the realization a week or two ago that this group did not have an extended run in them - although I would've preferred to see them get the chance to prove me wrong. In the end their strong start to the season masked how bad they've been for months to me. As for Stearns and Mendoza, I'm not a pitchforks and torches type fan and I'd give them a pass this year because of how things went last year. Plus, I never got the impression that Mendoza lost clubhouse. I'm more down on Stearns, with the benefit of hindsight his starting pitching plan fell woefully short. It will be very interesting to see how they approach this off-season. Front and center is Pete, but Bor-ass will drag it out like he always does and unfortunately Vientos as the backup plan to Pete isn't all that appealing anymore . Personally I think they need to make some tough decisions wrt Vientos, Baty, McNeil, Acuna and Mauricio - none of them stood out to me. Looking forward to hearing all your thoughts. In the mean time thankfully we have the Bills to transition to! Yeah. To me I think a lot of it is they lost the playoff spot to the Reds vs the Phillies. I've been to Cincy to see a Reds game and they had a cool museum there dedicated to the history of the team. They had 4,000 plus baseballs on display for Pete's hits in his career. Was a nice experience overall. Losing to the Phillies just I think would be a lot more painful. Plus the team greatly to me overachieved last year as you said. This year felt like it balanced it out a little. That being said Stearns will be my #1 target as well I will be most critical of going forward. He has to re sign Big Pete and Diaz this offseason. 1
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