Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: Really good post. Now do Trump 1.0. Let me help you: https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/biden-trump-stock-market-gains President Biden will leave office having presided over a very strong stock market, but not quite as strong as either of his two predecessors. The big picture: The S&P 500, Dow Jones Industrial Average, and Nasdaq Composite all gained more during Trump's first term than during Biden's. By the numbers: The S&P 500 gained 66.5% under Trump and 57.9% under Biden. The Dow Jones Industrial Average gained 56.8% under Trump and 40.2% under Biden. The Nasdaq composite gained a whopping 137.5% under Trump, and 47.1% under Biden. Yeah, trump wasn’t engaging in a trade war back then…
JDHillFan Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM 29 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'd be more than happy to give him credit. 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Yeah, trump wasn’t engaging in a trade war back then… Pitiful. Also - sorry about your Georgia vacation. It must suck since you are spending your day here. Oh well.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 07:05 PM Posted Saturday at 07:05 PM Just now, JDHillFan said: Pitiful. Also - sorry about your Georgia vacation. It must suck since you are spending your day here. Oh well. The wedding is in an hour. Use your venom quickly.
JDHillFan Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: The wedding is in an hour. Use your venom quickly. Try not to ruin it by being yourself.
K D Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: it's down almost 80 points since Jan 17th. party on garth. Lol it's way way way up since the Joe Biden says. It went up that high after the election. I thought the protests were going to put them out of business? Edited Saturday at 08:56 PM by K D
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, K D said: Lol it's way way way up since the Joe Biden says. It went up that high after the election. I thought the protests were going to put them out of business? No dude. I know facts don't matter to MAGAs but money does https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/?fr=sycsrp_catchall it was 426 on Jan 17. It closed at 340 Friday (after hours) Edited yesterday at 01:13 AM by Joe Ferguson forever
sherpa Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: No dude. I know facts don't matter to MAGAs but money does https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/?fr=sycsrp_catchall it was 426 on Jan 17. It closed at 340 Friday (after hours) I guess I don't get your point, if you are actually trying to make one. The S&P is down 2% from a historically overvalued point since the election. Anybody who is concerned about that should never trade. The bond market it unchanged. TSLA trades at a 200 PE, which is insane, and you bring that up?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM (edited) 8 minutes ago, sherpa said: I guess I don't get your point, if you are actually trying to make one. The S&P is down 2% from a historically overvalued point since the election. Anybody who is concerned about that should never trade. The bond market it unchanged. TSLA trades at a 200 PE, which is insane, and you bring that up? I'm bringing up the fact that Blitzkrieg is crowing on making money on tesla and he apparently still owns shares talk to him. As I've said before the market trajectory was much better before Jan 17 2025. Are you dim? Please tell me you're not interested... Edited yesterday at 01:31 AM by Joe Ferguson forever
sherpa Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM 11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'm bringing up the fact that Blitzkrieg is crowing on making money on tesla and he apparently still owns shares talk to him. As I've said before the market trajectory was much better before Jan 17 2025. Are you dim? Please tell me you're not interested... Ya. I'm dim. The market got a bit of a Trump bump after the election. The market did not like the tariff thing, reacted, and has responded to adjustments to that. The bond market has done nothing. TSLA trades at a ridiculous PE. Issues that do that are notoriously volatile. Nothing to glean from that. Either way the thought of a moron being elected with a greater moron as VP would have been a disaster for the market. Certainly would have caused me to go all cash, if not short it. But hey.....I'm dim. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM (edited) 18 minutes ago, sherpa said: Ya. I'm dim. The market got a bit of a Trump bump after the election. The market did not like the tariff thing, reacted, and has responded to adjustments to that. The bond market has done nothing. TSLA trades at a ridiculous PE. Issues that do that are notoriously volatile. Nothing to glean from that. Either way the thought of a moron being elected with a greater moron as VP would have been a disaster for the market. Certainly would have caused me to go all cash, if not short it. But hey.....I'm dim. you shoulda gone all cash then Einstein. Then get back in when sanity returns. Whenever that will be. Gold is dropping too. Make a bet. How bout the currency market. Are you willing to bet on the dollar? Buffet and all the masters of the universe think this is folly. but you know better cuz you flew fighter jets... Edited yesterday at 02:08 AM by Joe Ferguson forever 1
sherpa Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 16 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: but you know better cuz you flew fighter jets... Do you ever wonder what makes people "disinterested?" This is a perfect example. It's simply stupid, unrelated claims that have never been made. It's a waste of time. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) https://www.marketwatch.com/story/investors-brace-for-reaction-after-moodys-strips-u-s-of-its-top-credit-rating-2bbe0b5d more good news for your 401k. watch treasuries in the near future. While investors have long considered the likelihood that Moody’s would join S&P and Fitch in downgrading the U.S., the Friday move appeared to catch investors by surprise, said Michael Kramer, founder of Mott Capital, in a note. The reaction in the Treasury market will be crucial, he said. Edited 5 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever
CoudyBills Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 2/13/2025 at 8:07 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Whose side are you on? Is Musk really overtaxed? Or are you overtaxed? See, not only will average Americans pay more through tariffs, but you will also be saddled under a mountain of government debt. This will hurt future growth, threaten the long term viability of SS and medicare, the military while at the same time rendering our economy less efficient, profitable and dynamic. The trade wars that are to pay for this--through heavy taxation on average Americans, will mean a weaker economy, fewer choices for American consumers and less opportunity for innovation and cooperation. Donald Trump does not care that this is stupid, hurts America and the majority of the people. He is just like Musk in that, they think they are superior humans, and that the economy should be for them, ergo, they shouldn't pay the taxes, YOU should. https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-reveal-trump-tax-plan-will-cost-us-45-trillion-2030024 Avi Gilburt over at elliotwavetrader.net has been calling for a possibility of deflation, and a rough halving of the S&P500 since 2015ish, we are at the end of the 5 wave structure that kicked off around world war 2. Seems this outlook isn't new.
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