Homelander Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM On 4/14/2025 at 10:21 PM, B-Man said: Donald Trump has upset that apple cart. For people who care about things like fiscal sanity, accountability and transparency, it is a welcome restoration The Trump administration outshining its own stooges daily is the kind of tragic comedy you can’t make up.
Roundybout Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM 2 minutes ago, Homelander said: The Trump administration outshining its own stooges daily is the kind of tragic comedy you can’t make up. Hmm. The state telling private enterprise to fix prices? Interesting.
Homelander Posted Tuesday at 01:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:55 PM 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Hmm. The state telling private enterprise to fix prices? Interesting. Exactly. But what else would you expect when WEI hires are in charge, using a mix of psyops and mind games as their go-to strategies?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted Tuesday at 02:17 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:17 PM 21 minutes ago, Homelander said: Exactly. But what else would you expect when WEI hires are in charge, using a mix of psyops and mind games as their go-to strategies? How sad is your life? 1
The Frankish Reich Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Hmm. The state telling private enterprise to fix prices? Interesting. Amazon pulled back that "threat" (by which I mean "disclosing the truth"), but the point has been made. I hope Amazon and more companies do this. The price impact of tariffs shouldn't be hidden. Unless Trump course corrects soon, we'll be seeing this a lot. 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted Wednesday at 02:50 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 02:50 PM Reading the tea leaves in Trump's morning cup: - I see the White House trotted out ... PETER NAVARRO this morning. Ol' Pete is back. So that always spooks markets since he is, after all, Mr. Tariff. - Prediction: Bessent will pop up somewhere this afternoon or after markets close with some kind of phony "it's all a negotiations tactic, and we're really close" statement. Markets up later today or in after-hours trading. What fun. Trump has made this just like Bet MGM with tons of in-game betting options. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted Wednesday at 03:25 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 03:25 PM Tariffs also create something else economists hate: trying to game the system. Companies spending lots of time and money to try to minimize their impact like this: https://viewfromthewing.com/delta-beats-trumps-tariffs-new-airbus-jets-arriving-duty-free/ Delta's Airbus orders would be subject to a 10% tariff. So they take delivery of them in Japan and technically base them overseas so they are not taxed.
US Egg Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM (edited) On 4/29/2025 at 12:16 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Amazon pulled back that "threat" (by which I mean "disclosing the truth"), but the point has been made. I hope Amazon and more companies do this. The price impact of tariffs shouldn't be hidden. Unless Trump course corrects soon, we'll be seeing this a lot. Is it a stretch to think Amazon benefited China more than the U.S.? I get the cheaper pricing point, like Wal-Mart did. But they’ve pretty much crushed …..everything here? Kind of a treasonous thing in a backhanded way. No? Edited Wednesday at 09:27 PM by US Egg
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted yesterday at 12:50 PM Posted yesterday at 12:50 PM Stop being stupid, please!
Roundybout Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Keep running on this messaging, Trump! Americans love paying more for stuff!
Roundybout Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago If Trump has his way, our economy will resemble the USSR. Yeah, we might have goods made in America, but they’ll be low-quality clones of good brands in the same was Optima was a clone of Olympia typewriters, or Zenit was a low-quality clone of Leica. No innovation, no competition. There will be no incentive to make goods better for the consumer because firms are artificially propped up by the government. What a terrible way to live. 1 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, Roundybout said: If Trump has his way, our economy will resemble the USSR. Yeah, we might have goods made in America, but they’ll be low-quality clones of good brands in the same was Optima was a clone of Olympia typewriters, or Zenit was a low-quality clone of Leica. No innovation, no competition. There will be no incentive to make goods better for the consumer because firms are artificially propped up by the government. What a terrible way to live. You're correct, living in a constant state of orange man bad is a terrible way to live.
Roundybout Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: You're correct, living in a constant state of orange man bad is a terrible way to live. Reducing everything to “orange man bad” shows you lack the intellectual capability to understand opposing arguments.
thenorthremembers Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago 17 hours ago, Roundybout said: Keep running on this messaging, Trump! Americans love paying more for stuff! Buy American.
All_Pro_Bills Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago (edited) 17 hours ago, Roundybout said: Keep running on this messaging, Trump! Americans love paying more for stuff! That must be a very nice jacket for $628. And a $90 shirt? With or without tariffs, you can get better deals store/sites like Kohls or Macys. But if you're looking for an example of how the tariffs are hurting the average consumer you might want to cite a lower price point. Edited 51 minutes ago by All_Pro_Bills 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 45 minutes ago Posted 45 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: That must be a very nice jacket for $628. And a $90 shirt? With or without tariffs, you can get better deals store/sites like Kohls or Macys. But if you're looking for an example of how the tariffs are hurting the average consumer you might want to cite a lower price point. $600 for a Hart Shafner and Marx suit coat is normal. You can buy one at Dillards in the mall. A tailored, high quality shirt is $90. Why should king trump be the only American able to wear nice clothes? 1
Roundybout Posted 35 minutes ago Posted 35 minutes ago 17 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Buy American. Why should I? European firms make better clothing. 18 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: That must be a very nice jacket for $628. And a $90 shirt? With or without tariffs, you can get better deals store/sites like Kohls or Macys. But if you're looking for an example of how the tariffs are hurting the average consumer you might want to cite a lower price point. As @Joe Ferguson forever said, $90 is a common price for a quality dress shirt, especially when you shop higher label brands like Ralph Lauren.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 21 minutes ago Posted 21 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Why should I? European firms make better clothing. As @Joe Ferguson forever said, $90 is a common price for a quality dress shirt, especially when you shop higher label brands like Ralph Lauren. Hart is an American company . it's still has a plant in Illinois. Not sure about the factories in Rochester NY and Hamilton Ontario. You get what you pay for. Their stuff lasts. It looks good. Fits well. so who do they compete with? Hugo Boss comes to mind. Even more expensive before tariffs but shouldn't any consumer be able to choose between the two? This is so far removed from bedrock American principle of free enterprise it's sickening. and the maga's call us socialists.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 13 minutes ago Posted 13 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Reducing everything to “orange man bad” shows you lack the intellectual capability to understand opposing arguments. Your arguments are trash. 1
Roundybout Posted just now Posted just now 11 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Your arguments are trash. Great rebuttal. Go publish that in an academic paper. Tariffs and protectionism stifle innovation. This is a simple economic fact. 20 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Hart is an American company . it's still has a plant in Illinois. Not sure about the factories in Rochester NY and Hamilton Ontario. You get what you pay for. Their stuff lasts. It looks good. Fits well. so who do they compete with? Hugo Boss comes to mind. Even more expensive before tariffs but shouldn't any consumer be able to choose between the two? This is so far removed from bedrock American principle of free enterprise it's sickening. and the maga's call us socialists. Correct. If American made is so great, it should win out in the market place.
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