daz28 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 11 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I think it's important to remove the top 1%, or even the top 10%, from a lot of these demographics. I've seen a lot of studies showing how much the top influences the overall result shown. It's quite significant. Almost every measure of economic growth historically favors democrats, so even if lazy democrats are only getting off their asses to vote, it still ends up making ALL citizens wealthier. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Pokebball said: I'm talking about income and/or wealth. They skew the results very significantly based on things I've seen. Which results? Party affiliation? That what this thread is about…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: So when we “elites” win it’s cuz we’re rigging the system but when you plebs do it’s cuz of hard work? Pathetic. Btw the fastest way to estimate wealth is to look at shoes. Anything less than Johnston and Murphy isn’t binary fide You’re not one of the elites pal. I bet I’ve spoken with more politicians and kingmakers than you have, and in not elite. Honestly you are just somebody without a family so you don’t care about the future. also Robert Kraft wears Jordan’s. And Charlie Ergan wears tevas and socks. and Johnston and Murphy $100 old man shoes aren’t impressing anyone. Edited January 20 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, daz28 said: Almost every measure of economic growth historically favors democrats, so even if lazy democrats are only getting off their asses to vote, it still ends up making ALL citizens wealthier. You just moved the goal post. I'll assume you got my point challenging your data 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, daz28 said: Almost every measure of economic growth historically favors democrats, so even if lazy democrats are only getting off their asses to vote, it still ends up making ALL citizens wealthier. THIS is the crux of magaism: if u can’t win, lie and cheat…cuz you’re entitled cuz you’re white working class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Which results? Party affiliation? That what this thread is about…. Dollars as a factor in your data. It really was clear to the rest of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You’re not one of the elites pal. I bet I’ve spoken with more politicians and kingmakers than you have, and in not elite. Honestly you are just somebody without a family so you don’t care about the future. also Robert Kraft wears Jordan’s and Johnston and Murphy $100 old man shoes aren’t impressing anyone. They’ll get you past the doorman at Cartier. Will your shoes? 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You’re not one of the elites pal. I bet I’ve spoken with more politicians and kingmakers than you have, and in not elite. Honestly you are just somebody without a family so you don’t care about the future. also Robert Kraft wears Jordan’s and Johnston and Murphy $100 old man shoes aren’t impressing anyone. Btw, tell Irv and all the MAGAs here who question my career, travel, exploits with no basis . One loser here has repeatedly called me a snob for doing normal things within my peer group Edited January 20 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: Almost every measure of economic growth historically favors democrats, so even if lazy democrats are only getting off their asses to vote, it still ends up making ALL citizens wealthier. That’s as close a concession as I’ve ever seen from you. I’ll take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Dollars as a factor in your data. It really was clear to the rest of us. Still not clear. It’s not relevant to party affiliation. Pretty fn simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Still not clear. Got it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: They’ll get you past the doorman at Cartier. Will your shoes? Btw, tell Irv and all the MAGAs here who question my career, travel, exploits with no basis . One loser here has repeatedly called me a snob for doing normal things within my peer group Bragging to a sub-forum chat about wasting money because your acquaintances do doesn’t paint the picture of you you think it does. You bring it upon yourself. I bet you also do everything you can to minimize your own taxes while bloviating about what the government should do with other peoples money. I honestly don’t know of a single MAGA Trump lover here. Is there one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, Pokebball said: You just moved the goal post. I'll assume you got my point challenging your data This isn't a topic that has all sorts of readily available data, and the OP is far from scientifically worded, so blame me. The fact that blue states and blue administrations do better economically is relevant. I gave you a bunch of data and facts, so do with it as you please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Bragging to a sub-forum chat about wasting money because your acquaintances do doesn’t paint the picture of you you think it does. You bring it upon yourself. I bet you also do everything you can to minimize your own taxes while bloviating about what the government should do with other peoples money. I honestly don’t know of a single MAGA Trump lover here. Is there one? Who is wasting money. I’m after adventure and I’m buying it. And again, this is normal conversation among my fellow skiers this week. You MAGAs r just sensitive about wealth or lack there of Wanna compare lifetime taxes paid. Everyone with half a brain tries to minimize tax load. But not everyone votes to lower taxes. Dummy 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: This isn't a topic that has all sorts of readily available data, and the OP is far from scientifically worded, so blame me. The fact that blue states and blue administrations do better economically is relevant. I gave you a bunch of data and facts, so do with it as you please. That is likely to be ignore it…. Edited January 20 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 17 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: That’s as close a concession as I’ve ever seen from you. I’ll take it. I mean it is easier for EVERYONE to get off their ass and earn a good living when the fed/state government is doing a good job providing a lot of good paying jobs, right? You could have just named the thread, 'Democrats are a higher percentage of the lowest income brackets', but then you'd have to discuss the socioeconomic factors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: I mean it is easier for EVERYONE to get off their ass and earn a good living when the fed/state government is doing a good job providing a lot of good paying jobs, right? You could have just named the thread, 'Democrats are a higher percentage of the lowest income brackets', but then you'd have to discuss the socioeconomic factors. Excellent flip flop, now you agree with me and are on to the excuses and blaming society hoping bigger government can fix it. 😂 😂 😂 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Who is wasting money. I’m after adventure and I’m buying it. And again, this is normal conversation among my fellow skiers this week. You MAGAs r just sensitive about wealth or lack there of Wanna compare lifetime taxes paid. Everyone with half a brain tries to minimize tax load. But not everyone votes to lower taxes. Dummy That is likely to be ignore it…. No that’s not it. You’re kind of a wannabe loser and it’s really sad. I know people like you, so empty inside you try to gloss it over by trying to look better than you know you are. Start a go fund me and I’ll send you a couple bucks so you can try to fill that void. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Excellent flip flop, now you agree with me and are on to the excuses and blaming society hoping bigger government can fix it. 😂 😂 😂 The only demographic that supported your argument was somewhere between $102-500k, so I don't agree, and if bigger government is how the democrats have outperformed republicans economically, then we probably do need more of it. If you'd care to explain how "society"(socioeconomics) isn't part of the issue, I'm all ears. I'll take the 3 emojis as a compliment Edited January 20 by daz28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Excellent flip flop, now you agree with me and are on to the excuses and blaming society hoping bigger government can fix it. 😂 😂 😂 No that’s not it. You’re kind of a wannabe loser and it’s really sad. I know people like you, so empty inside you try to gloss it over by trying to look better than you know you are. Start a go fund me and I’ll send you a couple bucks so you can try to fill that void. 😂 Who wants to be a loser? Surely not me. I’m as competitive as they come. And the void I’m filling is lack of lifetime leisure experiences due to working my ass off my entire life….you know little about me but have reached some outrageous, unfounded conclusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Who wants to be a loser? Surely not me. I’m as competitive as they come. And the void I’m filling is lack of lifetime leisure experiences due to working my ass off my entire life….you know little about me but have reached some outrageous, unfounded conclusions Board membership can only go off the way you have presented yourself here, i.e., a yuuuge douchebag. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 18 minutes ago, daz28 said: The only demographic that supported your argument was somewhere between $102-500k, so I don't agree, and if bigger government is how the democrats have outperformed republicans economically, then we probably do need more of it. If you'd care to explain how "society"(socioeconomics) isn't part of the issue, I'm all ears. I'll take the 3 emojis as a compliment mph the only demographic that supported my argument was the group I was talking about? You’re such a treat. Here is you in the thread. it’s not true, here’s a snippet copied while omitting the link because the overall data set corroborates the assertion in the op heres another one here’s another one and another heres some tangential irrelevant straw man thing another one ok you’re right, its true but it’s societies fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Democrats are the ones that made me stay home for two years, try indoctrination of our kids into liberal extreme ideology, forced me and my kids to take an unproven vaccine, try to steal more of my money than they already steal and try to usurp my local governments power under their own control, have instituted law enforcement policy that has resulted in crime encroaching into our formally safe neighborhoods. why does anyone stand for this? the only answer is you don’t have anything to lose because you’ve already lost, or you don’t have any responsibility in life or a family to protect. Hoax. Who was POTUS when COVID hit our shores? Who ignored his intelligence because he would rather gold and play w a sharpie? So much for the party of personal responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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