JDHillFan Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Just now, Roundybout said: You can continue to argue against it, but stop using sources you clearly can’t comprehend. Or choose not to. PS, surgery IS part of the psychiatric support after age 18. Before 18? Have you, in these pages, ever supported an age limit? I do not believe you have. Meanwhile, you have attempted to turn an incredibly brief passage from an NIH paper that talks about stigma and psychiatric care for trans identifying people into it being the central issue. The paper is about an unacceptable increase in suicidal tendencies for people that have undergone these surgeries. You can’t be more disingenuous. Why you are fine with promoting these procedures that have such horrible outcomes is anyone’s guess. Maybe it’s just your twisted ideology that you regularly put on display.
BillsFanNC Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 (edited) This is why you can't have a "discussion" with the left. Surgeries have indeed been performed on minors. A LOT. Roundy this is where you shift from its not happening straight to ok it's happening but it's a good thing. Edited June 20 by BillsFanNC
Roundybout Posted June 20 Posted June 20 30 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Before 18? Have you, in these pages, ever supported an age limit? I do not believe you have. Meanwhile, you have attempted to turn an incredibly brief passage from an NIH paper that talks about stigma and psychiatric care for trans identifying people into it being the central issue. The paper is about an unacceptable increase in suicidal tendencies for people that have undergone these surgeries. You can’t be more disingenuous. Why you are fine with promoting these procedures that have such horrible outcomes is anyone’s guess. Maybe it’s just your twisted ideology that you regularly put on display. I genuinely am at a loss as to how you can’t understand that the suicide rates are explained by increased social stigma and isolation after the surgery, not the surgery itself. It’s baffling.
BillsFanNC Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 Two minutes. On minor gender transition surgeries. To go from its absolutely not happening. To ok, maybe it is but it's not that bad. To its good that it's happening. Two minutes. Watch.
JDHillFan Posted June 20 Posted June 20 30 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I genuinely am at a loss as to how you can’t understand that the suicide rates are explained by increased social stigma and isolation after the surgery, not the surgery itself. It’s baffling. Why do you advocate for subjecting mentally compromised young people to procedures that result in, to quote you, “increased social stigma and isolation after the surgery”? Particularly when it leads to a 12 fold increase in suicidal tendencies? I advocate for getting these young people the mental help they need and then letting them make a life-altering decision as an adult. What age is too young for these procedures in your mind?
Roundybout Posted June 20 Posted June 20 46 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Why do you advocate for subjecting mentally compromised young people to procedures that result in, to quote you, “increased social stigma and isolation after the surgery”? Particularly when it leads to a 12 fold increase in suicidal tendencies? I advocate for getting these young people the mental help they need and then letting them make a life-altering decision as an adult. What age is too young for these procedures in your mind? When people like you treat transgender folk like they’re monsters, it’s not too hard to see why they’d feel suicidal. I think too young is below puberty.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted June 20 Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: When people like you treat transgender folk like they’re monsters, it’s not too hard to see why they’d feel suicidal. I think too young is below puberty. Too young is below 18. 1 1
JDHillFan Posted June 20 Posted June 20 11 minutes ago, Roundybout said: When people like you treat transgender folk like they’re monsters, it’s not too hard to see why they’d feel suicidal. I think too young is below puberty. The question you won’t answer is why you are a proponent of subjecting children around the age of 12 to procedures that have such horrific outcomes associated with them. Bizarre and disturbing. They’re not monsters. They need psychiatric help and steady adults in their lives. You throw out such a ridiculous strawman because your position is indefensible. Childish. 1
Roundybout Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: The question you won’t answer is why you are a proponent of subjecting children around the age of 12 to procedures that have such horrific outcomes associated with them. Bizarre and disturbing. They’re not monsters. They need psychiatric help and steady adults in their lives. You throw out such a ridiculous strawman because your position is indefensible. Childish. You still operate under the belief that kids under 18 are lining up for surgeries like they’re orthodontics. You’ve invented a strawman to justify your hatred towards trans people. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/gender-affirming-surgeries-rarely-performed-on-transgender-youth/ https://www.hrc.org/resources/get-the-facts-on-gender-affirming-care The “horrific outcomes” for those who get surgery are a direct result of YOUR actions and YOUR beliefs, not theirs. It’s on YOU.
JDHillFan Posted June 20 Posted June 20 40 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You still operate under the belief that kids under 18 are lining up for surgeries like they’re orthodontics. You’ve invented a strawman to justify your hatred towards trans people. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/gender-affirming-surgeries-rarely-performed-on-transgender-youth/ https://www.hrc.org/resources/get-the-facts-on-gender-affirming-care The “horrific outcomes” for those who get surgery are a direct result of YOUR actions and YOUR beliefs, not theirs. It’s on YOU. Incorrect, kid. It’s on the people that tell confused youngsters their problems can be solved by chopping their bodies up. It’s this sort of thinking that has people like you and your political party becoming more irrelevant every day.
BillsFanNC Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 Roundy: "Look, it happens, but it's rare. See this study with data up to 2019." The rest of us paying attention the past five years: Do No Harm, an advocacy group that represents medical professionals concerned about identity politics, gender ideology, and DEI practices in medicine, was able to aggregate their figures by scouring a selection of insurance claims filed nationwide between 2019 and 2023. In all they found 5,747 unique patients receiving gender affirming surgery — whether it be a mastectomy or genital reassignment surgery — as well as 8,579 patients on puberty blockers and/or hormone replacement therapy. Overall, they counted more than 60,000 total prescriptions
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 20 Posted June 20 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: I genuinely am at a loss as to how you can’t understand that the suicide rates are explained by increased social stigma and isolation after the surgery, not the surgery itself. It’s baffling. Roundy- I do believe your heart is in the right place- but your points are wrong. These people aren't killing themselves because of social stigma, it is the fact that the surgery does not do anything to help them. These people are being sold a false bill of goods that if they get the surgery they will be the opposite sex, and that is simply a lie. I could get surgery, put on a dress, remove all my hair, put on dress, and not one person will ever accept I am a female. The surgery is not helpful to their mental health because it is supposed to gain them acceptance which will never happen because it is a lie
BillsFanNC Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 14 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Roundy- I do believe your heart is in the right place- but your points are wrong. These people aren't killing themselves because of social stigma, it is the fact that the surgery does not do anything to help them. These people are being sold a false bill of goods that if they get the surgery they will be the opposite sex, and that is simply a lie. I could get surgery, put on a dress, remove all my hair, put on dress, and not one person will ever accept I am a female. The surgery is not helpful to their mental health because it is supposed to gain them acceptance which will never happen because it is a lie But many people, like Roundy, will be just find pretending to accept you as something that's impossible to become. Does wonders for the mental health of both the liars and the persons being lied to.
BillsFanNC Posted June 23 Author Posted June 23 Beautiful. This is how you deal with trantifa. Point, mock and laugh in their faces.
BillsFanNC Posted June 25 Author Posted June 25 🎯 It's the same as getting people to say 2+2=5. If they can get you to fully believe that objectively false things are true then they own you and you're never coming back to reality. 1
B-Man Posted June 25 Posted June 25 U.S. Department of Education Finds California Department of Education and California Interscholastic Federation in Violation of Title IX https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-finds-california-department-of-education-and-california-interscholastic-federation-violation-of-title-ix
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