Lori Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Lori, are there receivers in the HOF with stats that are clearly inferior to those of Andre? 338502[/snapback] Sorry, I missed this the first time through. The Hall of Fame defines the "Modern Era" as post-1946, but I'm going to chop that a little finer - IMO, there's no objective way to compare the current NFL passing game to the '50s and '60s. (Even the early '70s may be a stretch, before the pass interference rules were changed to benefit WRs.) Here's the complete list of HOF WRs who played at least half of their careers after the AFL-NFL merger in 1970: Fred Biletnikoff 1965-78; Class of 1988 (10 yrs. after retirement) 14 seasons; 589 catches-8,974 yds, 76 TDs Six AFL All-Star/Pro Bowl selections; 2 Super Bowls, 1 ring; Super Bowl XI MVP Charlie Joiner 1969-86; Class of 1996 (10 yrs. after retirement) 18 seasons; 750 catches-12,146 yds, 65 TDs; three Pro Bowls Steve Largent 1976-89; Class of 1995 (6 yrs. after retirement) 14 seasons; 819 catches-13,089 yds-100 TDs; 7 Pro Bowls. Largent was also the career catches-yardage-TD record holder when he retired. James Lofton 1978-93; Class of 2003 (10 yrs. after retirement) 16 seasons; 764 catches-14,004 yds-75 TDs; 8 Pro Bowls; 3 Super Bowls Lofton held the league yardage record when he retired. John Stallworth 1974-87; Class of 2002 (15 yrs. after retirement) 14 seasons; 537 catches-8,723 yds-63 TDs; 4 Pro Bowls; 4 Super Bowls, 4 rings Lynn Swann 1974-82; Class of 2001 (19 yrs. after retirement) 8 seasons; 336 catches-5,462 yds-51 TDs; 3 Pro Bowls; 4 Super Bowls, 4 rings, Super Bowl X MVP Charley Taylor 1964-75,77; Class of 1984 (7 yrs. after retirement) 13 seasons; 649 catches-9,110 yds, 79 TDs; eight Pro Bowls; 1 Super Bowl As with Largent, Taylor held all the receiving records when he retired. Paul Warfield 1964-77; Class of 1983 (6 yrs. after retirement) 14 seasons; 427 catches-8,565 yds, 85 TDs; eight Pro Bowls 3 Super Bowls, 2 rings, plus one NFL championship with Cleveland (1964) Now, do the same for Andre: 16 seasons; 941 catches-13,095 yds-86 TDs; seven Pro Bowls; 4 Super Bowls Obviously, Reed's numbers DO compete. But I'll repeat what I said last September: It'll only get tougher, as guys like Jerry Rice and Marvin Harrison keep raising the bar for all modern-era WRs to get in. If you don't have good numbers combined with a Super Bowl ring or four - IMHO, Lynn Swann doesn't make it without the Super Bowl X MVP award AND the national TV gig - then your stats have to be un-friggin'-believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 At least it helped the guy in Fox (from the Oakland team) to get to theHall sooner. 338998[/snapback] Howie Long! I've always thought he was the least deserving guy who ever made the HOF. But.....he's famous!! He's a pal of Bradshaw! http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Thurman Thomas will be in the Hall. He deserves it, he was MVP in 91 and lead the league in seasons over 1000 combined yards. Reed may or maybe not. Perhaps his attitude has something to do with it? 338522[/snapback] IMO Reed belongs in the Hall but only after a long period like Lofton and only after review of other receivers. And yes I do think his attitude has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Andre should definitely be in. However, the likelihood of him getting in stands at approximately 34.5%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 today on the Dan Patrick show on ESPN Radio, Dan listed a number of players and whether or not Pasq said they should be inducted. Pasq is one of the 38 voters and he immediately said NO to Reed. Also no's to Art Monk(which is total bull sh--)! but yet he put heavy thought into whether or not Ricky Watters should be in!! ummm huh?? any thoughts?? 338472[/snapback] Len is from ESPN....therefore, we should not respect his opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 IMHO, Lynn Swann doesn't make it without the Super Bowl X MVP award AND the national TV gig 339112[/snapback] Without the SB hardware and the tv gig, Lynn Swann doesn't even make the top 15 finalists, let alone get in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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