If Trump loses and refuses to leave

[snafu]

5 hours ago, TBBills said:

Here we go more deep state bull#### from the Trumpies 

 

Thats not deep state bull####. 

Pelosi created a 25th Amendment task force a couple months ago. 

 

I mean, there’s been a lot of deep state bull####, but this isn’t it. 

 

 

[jrober38]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Again, you can choose to believe what you wish, but it’s easily disproven if you open your eyes.  
 

Btw, one of the challenges facing those who believe in election fraud is the very real threat of violence against them and their families.   
 

It’s the same challenge we’ll face if any part of the challenge ends up at the SC— where a constitutionalist such as ACB may well be faced with the question of whether or not to apply the law v have her children threatened and harmed.  
 

But since the president has only one lawyer about to get disbarred for pursuing legal remedy, you’ll have to keep your pitchforks out in the shed for a while. 

 

You have to win numerous legal battles before they could get to the Supreme Court.

Trump hasn't won a single one yet.

This wet dream of yours that the SC is going to rule in his favour is never going to happen, because they clearly have no proof whatsoever of any voter fraud.

Edited November 18, 2020 by jrober38

[TBBills]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

You have to win numerous legal battles before they get to the Supreme Court.

Trump hasn't won a single one yet.

This wet dream of yours that the SC is going to rule in his favour is never going to happen.

These guys keep forgetting about the facts of the situations.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

Just now, jrober38 said:

 

You have to win numerous legal battles before they get to the Supreme Court.

Trump hasn't won a single one yet.

This wet dream of yours that the SC is going to rule in his favour is never going to happen.

In which case, there certainly is no harm in seeing it through. We’ll be where we are when we get there. 

[jrober38]

Just now, TBBills said:

These guys keep forgetting about the facts of the situations.

 

They don't seem to have any understanding of how the legal system works.

 

You don't just "go to the Supreme Court". 

 

You have to go through many courts before then, scoring wins along the way. Wins that would be based on actual evidence, which they're completely devoid of.

As things stand Trump is running out of legal battles. They've been soundly defeated across the country and their legal options at this point are practically non existent. 

[TBBills]

Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

In which case, there certainly is no harm in seeing it through. We’ll be where we are when we get there. 

True and Trump will look even worse and still refuse to accept it. Got to love a guy that doesn't give a ***** about Americans only his name and ego matter 

[jrober38]

5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

In which case, there certainly is no harm in seeing it through. We’ll be where we are when we get there. 

 

No. You're there right now. You're at the destination now, you just refuse to accept it.

 

The reality of the situation to any reasonable person is that Trump was decisively defeated in the election. He's used up his best legal challenges in the early aftermath, and they've all be quickly thrown out of court because they have zero evidence. His lawyers have now mostly quit, and he has very few legal battles outstanding that have any chance of overturning a single vote let alone tens of thousands of votes. 

 

After you've tried 25 lawsuits (like Trump has) with ZERO success, do you really expect the subsequent ones to be any more effective? Are they really going to be anymore compelling to the same type of judges following the same laws?

Does that really sound like something that makes any sense whatsoever?

Edited November 18, 2020 by jrober38

[wnyguy]

2 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

They don't seem to have any understanding of how the legal system works.

 

You don't just "go to the Supreme Court". 

 

You have to go through many courts before then, scoring wins along the way. Wins that would be based on actual evidence, which they're completely devoid of.

As things stand Trump is running out of legal battles. They've been soundly defeated across the country and their legal options at this point are practically non existent. 

 

Serious question, do you not see anything suspicious at all regarding this election?

[jrober38]

6 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

 

Serious question, do you not see anything suspicious at all regarding this election?

 

No.

 

There's a global pandemic which has been completely politicized. Democrats wear masks, and Republicans don't.

 

Democrats were always going to vote by mail and vote early to avoid lines. 

 

Republicans were always going to show up on election day. Trump literally told his voters not to vote early, except in Florida, where they count early and it would actually help him. 

 

Knowing all this, mostly GOP officials across swing states like Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona made it so that officials could not count any early or mail in ballots until all of the day of election ballots were counted.

As a result, Trump had a big lead on election night, because his peoples votes got counted first, and his lead disappeared across the board as Democrat votes which were cast early began being counted.

 

Everything happened exactly like it was supposed to, and despite knowing this, Trump cried foul, even though this was his plan all along to undermine the election process which officials at the state and federal level have said was the most secure of all time.

Edited November 18, 2020 by jrober38

[TBBills]

1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

 

Serious question, do you not see anything suspicious at all regarding this election?

Always a few things happening either way b.c of human individuals not a collective group. 

 

The ***** these conspiracy theorist are coming up with are crazy. The worst part is they believe these things on a huge level that even when proven false they just add on saying the proof is also part of the conspiracy... They add on and add on till you get to this out of control thing going on with these poor people.  

 

All the while Trump see this and is playing them and pushing them on with his tweets and his power he holds infront of these people.

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

No.

 

There's a global pandemic which has been completely politicized. Democrats wear masks, and Republicans don't.

 

Democrats were always going to vote by mail and vote early to avoid lines. 

 

Republicans were always going to show up on election day. Trump literally told his voters not to vote early, except in Florida, where they count early and it would actually help him. 

 

Knowing all this, GOP officials across swing states like Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona made it so that officials could not count any early or mail in ballots until all of the day of election ballots were counted.

As a result, Trump had a big lead on election night, because his peoples votes got counted first, and his lead disappeared across the board as Democrat votes which were cast early began being counted.

 

Everything happened exactly like it was supposed to, and despite knowing this, Trump cried foul, even though this was his plan all along to undermine the election process which officials at the state and federal level have said was the most secure of all time.

Ok thanks for the reply.

2 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Always a few things happening either way b.c of human individuals not a collective group. 

 

The ***** these conspiracy theorist are coming up with are crazy. The worst part is they believe these things on a huge level that even when proven false they just add on saying the proof is also part of the conspiracy... They add on and add on till you get to this out of control thing going on with these poor people.  

 

All the while Trump see this and is playing them and pushing them on with his tweets and his power he holds infront of these people.

 

Well it's good that you can see that a few things happened either way.

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

Ok thanks for the reply.

 

No problem.

 

If there were any problems, we'd have concrete point at this point.

 

But the election itself went exactly as it was supposed to.

 

For the people who didn't like how it looked, the easy solution would be to do what Florida and North Carolina did and allow election officials to count mail in ballots as they come in, vs doing it after the day of the election. 

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

No problem.

 

If there were any problems, we'd have concrete point at this point.

 

But the election itself went exactly as it was supposed to.

 

For the people who didn't like how it looked, the easy solution would be to do what Florida and North Carolina did and allow election officials to count mail in ballots as they come in, vs doing it after the day of the election. 

 

I can agree that they should have been verified and counted as they came in. Seems to make sense to do it that way. 

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

 

I can agree that they should have been verified and counted as they came in. Seems to make sense to do it that way. 

 

Florida got their stuff together after 2000 with their election issues. 

 

Unfortunately no one else followed suit, many by design. They bought into the messaging Trump preferred which was that he won, and that the Dems stole the election from him, when reality is that the ballots that were being counted Wednesday, Thursday, Friday in PA probably arrived days, or weeks ahead of time and just sat in piles waiting to be counted after the day of votes. 

 

Hopefully this was a wake up call for the whole country and it doesn't happen again. 

[snafu]

17 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

They don't seem to have any understanding of how the legal system works.

 

You don't just "go to the Supreme Court". 

 

You have to go through many courts before then, scoring wins along the way. Wins that would be based on actual evidence, which they're completely devoid of.

As things stand Trump is running out of legal battles. They've been soundly defeated across the country and their legal options at this point are practically non existent. 

 

Funny.

Actually, parties who are unsuccessful in lower courts appeal.

Why would anyone who wins in a lower court appeal to a higher court.

 

 

 

 

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

 

 

Hopefully this was a wake up call for the whole country and it doesn't happen again. 

 

 

On this I totally agree. 

[jrober38]

10 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Funny.

Actually, parties who are unsuccessful in lower courts appeal.

Why would anyone who wins in a lower court appeal to a higher court.

 

 

 

 

 

Many of Trump's lawsuits have been appeals.

 

Once defeated in appeals court they have practically no chance of changing any outcomes. 

 

At this point Trump's legal efforts are pretty much dead in the water in every state where he's claimed fraud. 

[snafu]

12 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Many of Trump's lawsuits have been appeals.

 

Once defeated in appeals court they have practically no chance of changing any outcomes. 

 

At this point Trump's legal efforts are pretty much dead in the water in every state where he's claimed fraud. 

 

Oh I was just clearing up your lesson on how our court system works.

And I agree that Trump has got an extremely uphill climb.

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

46 minutes ago, TBBills said:

True and Trump will look even worse and still refuse to accept it. Got to love a guy that doesn't give a ***** about Americans only his name and ego matter 

You believe he’s a Russian agent. You voted for Joe Biden, a man your parents, grandparents and perhaps great grandparents recognized was a boob 45 years ago.  
 

DJT will be fine either way- and your feelings shall be placed in the Feelings Box of 2020. 
 

42 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

No. You're there right now. You're at the destination now, you just refuse to accept it.

 

The reality of the situation to any reasonable person is that Trump was decisively defeated in the election. He's used up his best legal challenges in the early aftermath, and they've all be quickly thrown out of court because they have zero evidence. His lawyers have now mostly quit, and he has very few legal battles outstanding that have any chance of overturning a single vote let alone tens of thousands of votes. 

 

After you've tried 25 lawsuits (like Trump has) with ZERO success, do you really expect the subsequent ones to be any more effective? Are they really going to be anymore compelling to the same type of judges following the same laws?

Does that really sound like something that makes any sense whatsoever?

All you’ve done here is grandstanded, lad.  You’ve offered a narrow world view based on your small view of the world, positioned it as fact and believe you have deftly backed me into a corner. 
 

If the destination has been reached you wouldn’t have to say anything further, yet you did, because you’re wrong. 
 

The “reality” as you see it is nothing of the sort, there are 70m Americans patiently waiting for the answer to so many questions.   
 

His lawyers...simply not true.  He has some of the most vaunted legal minds in the county working on his behalf. 
 

As you said, he has a few legal chances left and for reasons I don’t understand you want him to be able to pursue those challenges.  That’s not the way our system works. 
 

As I said, rest easy.  You’ve already said you know what’s going to happen—it silly to waste your breath on this with me.  
 

 

 

[TBBills]

11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You believe he’s a Russian agent. You voted for Joe Biden, a man your parents, grandparents and perhaps great grandparents recognized was a boob 45 years ago.  
 

DJT will be fine either way- and your feelings shall be placed in the Feelings Box of 2020. 

Yea so you're placing your feelings in the Feeling Box of 2020, they have a website for that run by crazy lunatics.

Edited November 18, 2020 by TBBills