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2 hours ago, NoSaint said:


how you think we can evaluate play calling while josh was COMPLETELY out of control for a large bit of that is beyond me. 
 

with dabs in the box I’m curious who Allen’s “guy” is on the sidelines to manage his emotions 

The opposite is true, fans always put too much on a QB. I can find you plenty of play callers that elevate less talented QBs but you won’t find QBs who do the opposite, almost ever

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The thing that is bothering me most is that there were some critical times when they could have run Singletary in the 2nd half, but just abandoned the run.

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37 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

The Texans are 29th in the NFL in pass yardage allowed, and 25th in QB Rating allowed.

 

The decision to throw a lot wasn't incorrect.

The Texans were 25th in rushing yards allowed too.

 

If you go back and look over what has won games on offense for the Bills the latter half of this season. Its when they have a balanced offensive attack or run more often and pass less. 

 

That Steelers game, Buffalo 38 rushes, 25 passes =win!

 

That Cowboys game, Buffalo 34 rushes, 25 passes = win!

 

That Denver game, Buffalo 47 rushes, 25 passes = win! 

 

That Redskins game, Buffalo 39 rushes, 20 passes =win!

 

Conversely, 

 

That Cleveland Game, Buffalo 20 rushes, 41 passes = loss

 

That Baltimore game, Buffalo 23 rushes, 49 passes=loss

 

That New England game, Buffalo 23 rushes, 26 passes=loss

 

That Texans game, Buffalo 30 rushes, 48 passes=loss Josh Allen had 9 carries for 92 yards a 10.2 YPC avg and 1 receiving TD. 

 

Notice the trend here when Buffalo runs the ball more then they throw it, they win! When they pass more it puts more pressure on that young QB to carry the game and they lose.

 

Either this Bills OC doesn't know how to make the run game work so he forces the young, inexperienced QB carry the offense. Or he is attempting to show the world how great an offensive mind he is by forcing the pass game work no matter what. The offensive pass protections break down and the OC has no answer. the receivers have difficulty getting open and the Bills OC has no answer. Lot of Bills fans want to pile on the QB and yet he simply doesn't have enough playing experience to throw 48 times in a playoff game.

 

 

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Daboll is not the right OC for this QB. He’s terrible at feel for game flow. It’s seems apparent though that our head coach had dictated this philosophy.

Dinosaur football, get a lead, play conservatively, allowing the defense to seal the deal.

 

Speaking of defense, we were killed by those 2 point conversions. The shoddy tackling continued today.

Houston didn’t deserve to win this game.

Better days ahead if we can get this coaching staff out of the 1970s.

 

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4 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

***** Josh Allen. Guy looked like a Wyoming QB way over his head for half of the game. He needed his dad to tell him to chill the ***** out.

Yeah. As good as he looked in the first half, he choked big time after that.  He’s young and learning.  Hopefully he steps it up in crunch time.  I’ve been a critic of his and he effed this one up, but even with that said I’m not totally down on him.  It’s easy to forget how raw he was coming here. He’s done some great things and that makes you forget.  Here’s hoping he grows from this.  He deserves to be our QB next season so let’s finish building the team and see what he becomes in 2020. 

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5 hours ago, Mshaw said:

he had 1 maybe 2 good drives during the whole game

 

can't believe fans want this guy back next year. Allens career will go down the drain with Daboll 


Wasn’t our  average starting point at our 12 yard line the first half and we scored on 4 drives?  

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5 hours ago, Agent 91 said:

Gotta protect the anointed one... deflect deflect deflect. Daboll will be the whipping boy. 

As he should, his play calling and personnel groupings were atrocious.

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Daboll can go. He’s not the OC to take this team where it wants to go. McD / Beane need to do a lot better here. 

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2 hours ago, dlonce said:

Daboll is not the right OC for this QB. He’s terrible at feel for game flow. It’s seems apparent though that our head coach had dictated this philosophy.

Dinosaur football, get a lead, play conservatively, allowing the defense to seal the deal.

 

Speaking of defense, we were killed by those 2 point conversions. The shoddy tackling continued today.

Houston didn’t deserve to win this game.

Better days ahead if we can get this coaching staff out of the 1970s.

 

Haven't you noticed that McDermott (like almost all HCs in the NFL) is a "My way or the highway" kind of guy?

 

He thinks he has it all figured out and he has built a complex way of doing things around that belief. 

 

Why in the world would he change from who he has been to something new and innovative in a single off-season?

 

He wants to win every game 17-13.  That is a really hard way to win football games.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

He wants to win every game 17-13.  That is a really hard way to win football games.

If this is true, then he has to go. In today's modern game a team needs to be able to score 24 points.

 

I can think of one team in the past 20 years in the 'modern' era that won the Super Bowl scoring 17 points a game (Baltimore). I don't know any other field in life where a person looks at the past 20 years and chooses to go the 1 in 20 route to be successful.

 

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13 hours ago, NickelCity said:

Truly terrible from 3rd quarter onward. Appalling. 

Houston was tackling so poorly against the run and Daboll totally steered away from it. This offense needs an upgrade at OC and a few more weapons. It just isn’t a finished product.

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14 hours ago, matter2003 said:

I mean I don't understand why he forgot how to run the ball in OT

Especially when their tackling was so poor all game! 

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First off it is true that Allen is young but he has almost 30 starts and two seasons of NFL experience.  The mistakes he's making aren't even rookie mistakes.  They are just bad football plays.  He has undeniable talent and has had us in position to win every single game this year including this one.  Daboll is much the same.  I'm not sure how many awful plays he called because frankly the execution of some of the plays is so bad I can't blame Daboll for the outcome but being the coach I'll still give him some of the blame.  Regardless just like Allen, and his flaws, Daboll called enough good plays to win this game.  Points were left on the field and turnovers helped the other team and only a sliver of that is on Daboll.

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14 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Please Cleveland hire this guy. 

I would love them too, however, they have whiffed so many times on coaches will they take the risk on this guy? My guess is McDaniels is their next HC. Problem is, Baker isn’t Brady so it will be fun to see how he fairs the second time around as a HC.

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You can be pissed off at Daboll all you want, however, at the end of the day, it's all on our HC.......he obviously has zero idea of how an offense works. Give him credit for building our D, but he had plenty of chances to step in over the course of the season when Daboll was failing and right the ship.......he didn't.

 

At the end of the day, Daboll is an OC, not the HC........the HC shoulders the load........right or wrong, it's HIS team and HIS responsibility to keep things rolling smooth or iron out the wrinkles.

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Josh Allen w 52% passing and being absolutely atrocious with running backwards and getting sacked on a 4th down play was just awful. Josh Allen needs to be 1000% better next year that was unacceptable play from a “franchise” “qb”. It’s laughable anyone thinks he’s anywhere close to being at Watson’s level. 

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14 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Dabs called an awful second half and in OT played like we were pressed for time! Please Cleveland you can have him as your next HC. Allen was, at times, doing things that were completely stupid. On to the off-season.

 

....FAR too inconsistent......something starts working and he abandons it.............play fearless so he can then coach FEARFUL........SMH..........

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11 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

The Texans were 25th in rushing yards allowed too.

 

If you go back and look over what has won games on offense for the Bills the latter half of this season. Its when they have a balanced offensive attack or run more often and pass less. 

 

That Steelers game, Buffalo 38 rushes, 25 passes =win!

 

That Cowboys game, Buffalo 34 rushes, 25 passes = win!

 

That Denver game, Buffalo 47 rushes, 25 passes = win! 

 

That Redskins game, Buffalo 39 rushes, 20 passes =win!

 

Conversely, 

 

That Cleveland Game, Buffalo 20 rushes, 41 passes = loss

 

That Baltimore game, Buffalo 23 rushes, 49 passes=loss

 

That New England game, Buffalo 23 rushes, 26 passes=loss

 

That Texans game, Buffalo 30 rushes, 48 passes=loss Josh Allen had 9 carries for 92 yards a 10.2 YPC avg and 1 receiving TD. 

 

Notice the trend here when Buffalo runs the ball more then they throw it, they win! When they pass more it puts more pressure on that young QB to carry the game and they lose.

 

Either this Bills OC doesn't know how to make the run game work so he forces the young, inexperienced QB carry the offense. Or he is attempting to show the world how great an offensive mind he is by forcing the pass game work no matter what. The offensive pass protections break down and the OC has no answer. the receivers have difficulty getting open and the Bills OC has no answer. Lot of Bills fans want to pile on the QB and yet he simply doesn't have enough playing experience to throw 48 times in a playoff game.

 

 

 

In other words, when we rely on Josh Allen to make plays and be the focal point on offense, we lose.

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5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....FAR too inconsistent......something starts working and he abandons it.............play fearless so he can then coach FEARFUL........SMH..........

It is baffling right? Devin was getting what, 4.8 a clip? In OT in the playoffs time does not matter but the dumb Dabs called it like we were pressed. The recipe was simple, run the ball with a few passes mixed in and most likely we win the game.

 

On a side bar- Josh has to learn how to sell play action and also hand the ball off. How many times is he running forward while handing it off? It is sooooo bizarre and impedes our RB. Stick the ball in his bread basket and let him do his thing.

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8 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

In other words, when we rely on Josh Allen to make plays and be the focal point on offense, we lose.

 

 

When he's asked to do too much he falters.  He is always the focal point  He did account for 90% of the Bills tds this year.  Daboll put him in way too many bad situations.  OT and Singeltary is not involved.  5wr sets with Gore and Dimarco?  Even stupid Bill O'Brien didnt put Watson out there in shotgun empty on every snap  He knew clock was no factor and involved Duke Johnson to help his qb get the ball out if Hopkins was covered.

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I just hate this offense.... just feel like positive yards is so hard for them. Too much complexity. I wouldn't care if they let Daboll go. 

22 minutes ago, Sweats said:

You can be pissed off at Daboll all you want, however, at the end of the day, it's all on our HC.......he obviously has zero idea of how an offense works. Give him credit for building our D, but he had plenty of chances to step in over the course of the season when Daboll was failing and right the ship.......he didn't.

 

At the end of the day, Daboll is an OC, not the HC........the HC shoulders the load........right or wrong, it's HIS team and HIS responsibility to keep things rolling smooth or iron out the wrinkles.

I don't trust McDermott at all with this offense going forward. He's got no clue.

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1 hour ago, jrober38 said:

 

In other words, when we rely on Josh Allen to make plays and be the focal point on offense, we lose.

Its not just on Allen as Barkley has looked bad in Brian Daboll's overly complicated passing offense too. In fact, every offense this man has been in charge of the passing offense is in the 20's or 30's regardless of who the QB is...

 

The NE Patriots had the #1 defense and #2 against the pass. #1 in TD passes allowed and #1 in INTs. So what did Tennessee do to beat them? 40 rushes-16 passes.

Yea, Tannehill was 9 of 16 for 76 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.  Meanwhile, RB Derrick Henry 34 rushes for 182 yards, 1 TD.  IN NEW ENGLAND! 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

I just hate this offense.... just feel like positive yards is so hard for them. Too much complexity. I wouldn't care if they let Daboll go. 

I don't trust McDermott at all with this offense going forward. He's got no clue.

 

 

 

He absolutely has no clue how an offense works.

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In overtime he actually called a perfect play. A little too perfect for our players to execute apparently. The QB sweep on first down. I actually jumped out of my seat as soon as the ball was snapped because it immediately looked like a great play. We had the Texans beat from the snap. Josh had not one but two lead blockers. Only needed to block one guy. Both Knox and the o-lineman (don't remember who) must have figured the other guy would make the block. Instead of picking up at minimum 7 yards on the play if not a first down, Allen gets crushed and only gains one yard. A good example of players needing to execute the play calls.

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