Joe Thomas wants Daboll for CLE HC - Mary Kay Cabot confirms request

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, Real McNasty said:

Weren't they sold to Baltimore? 

 

I'm just so glad this isn't the Bills, we were right there towards the end of the Wilson era. 

 

 

Yes, to the newcomer.....for 400 quatloos

[BADOLBILZ]

 

I expect Daboll is better cut out to be a HC than a coordinator based on all the positive feedback he gets as a coach( and the 30th ranked scoring offense type production that reflects his game work as an OC).

 

It happens.......Mike McCarthy wasn't a very good OC but he was a decent HC.

 

But even so.......then the problem is what kind of assistant coach follows shocking hire "Brian Daboll" to Cleveland?

 

I suspect he wouldn't be able to assemble much of a staff.   

 

And the Belichick tree is going to be picked about clean after McDaniels,  Flores and Vrabel get done adding to their staffs.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I expect Daboll is better cut out to be a HC than a coordinator based on all the positive feedback he gets as a coach( and the 30th ranked scoring offense type production that reflects his game work as an OC).

 

It happens.......Mike McCarthy wasn't a very good OC but he was a decent HC.

 

But even so.......then the problem is what kind of assistant coach follows shocking hire "Brian Daboll" to Cleveland?

 

I suspect he wouldn't be able to assemble much of a staff.   

 

And the Belichick tree is going to be picked about clean after McDaniels,  Flores and Vrabel get done adding to their staffs.

 

 

Daboll is at his professional apex right now.  He's not killing it.  Only the Peter Principle (and Jimmy Haslam) would lead to him being elevated to HC.

[Reed83HOF]

 

[Reed83HOF]

 

[BADOLBILZ]

6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

 

 

My inclination is hoping Daboll stays one more season so that Allen isn't changing systems while the game hasn't slowed down for him yet.

 

But I didn't want to lose Pettine............and Schwartz was better for the Bills.

 

And I didn't want to fire Roman..........but Anthony Lynn was WAY BETTER calling plays from Roman's playbook than Roman.

 

The Bills could just as easily find someone who is versed in an EP system who is just a better game caller and be better for it.

[Reed83HOF]

 

[Troll Toll]

3 hours ago, BobChalmers said:

I'm not saying Daboll is the greatest offensive mind, and I've hated a lot of his play calls - but can people here please come to grips with the fact that the offensive talent is still no better than mediocre, even with the replacement of 9 of 11 starters.

 

Josh Allen is the only first round pick on the offense.  Think about that for a minute.  The defense has 7!  Just because they upgraded the OL and WR from absolute trash (last season) to average doesn't mean they are actually good now - they are mediocre.

 

Some others for comparison, 

 

Jets 2

Ravens 4 (not counting RG3)

Texans 4

Titans 4 (not counting Mariota)

Chiefs 3

Tampa Bay 3

Vikings 2 (not the qb)

Eagles 4

Bears 1 (though they have a pile of 2's)

Cowboys 5 (and not the QB)

Seahawks 4 (All 4 are on the OL!!!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This times a million! I was saying the same thing all offseason. Seemed like many thought signing some middle tier free agents would elevate us from worst supporting cast to top 10 supporting cast. I had a thread that got shut down because I was pissed we passed on AJ Brown. Now he is the front runner for Offensive Rookie of the Year. I doubt we find a better receiver in the next few years.

[Reed83HOF]

Just now, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

My inclination is hoping Daboll stays one more season so that Allen isn't changing systems while the game hasn't slowed down for him yet.

 

But I didn't want to lose Pettine............and Schwartz was better for the Bills.

 

And I didn't want to fire Roman..........but Anthony Lynn was WAY BETTER calling plays from Roman's playbook than Roman.

 

The Bills could just as easily find someone who is versed in an EP system who is just a better game caller and be better for it.

I entirely agree and was/am hoping for 1-2 more years with him for Allen. It falls more on the developmental aspect of it for Allen is where my concern lies.

 

There is also a chance that he doesn't want to place his HC career prospects with Haslam as an owner, the track record of the HCs and in abilities to get hired after, Dorsey's drafting of questionable characters, etc.  Not so sure he would just jump for that. With the rep he has right now he can be a bit more selective IMO

 

 

 

[Reed83HOF]