AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, teef said: do some people want to use the files as a way of attacking trump? sure, but i think the majority of america wants the release because it's the right thing to do legally and morally. i'm not sure we'll even get to the bottom of anything, but at this stage of the game, it has to be released. The majority of democrats will think the files are fake if trump isn't guilty. This isn't about morality, its about bringing down Trump. That's all the democrats are now a days.
B-Man Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago There’s not a shred of evidence linking Trump to the pedophilic activities of the late New York financier, but Democrats will use whatever they can to make the case. Yet, with the media’s credibility in shambles and the Democrats in total chaos, Trump and his team likely and rightly think they can easily slap down any narrative that comes their way. They should feel confident—Democrats have nothing. Yet, why didn’t Joe Biden, who weaponized the Justice Department against Trump, release the files? He could have. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) was asked that, and his answer was not good: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/11/18/chuck-schumer-was-asked-why-didnt-biden-release-the-epstein-fileshis-answer-was-brutal-n2666581
Big Blitz Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Democrats are continuing to make this fake news a thing bc they know it’s fractured the pod cast bros that thought we were “getting” the files - there is a portion of Trump support that thinks this is a broken campaign promise. Which it never was. That’s all this nonsense is. That and they need to distract from this: 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 54 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: The majority of democrats will think the files are fake if trump isn't guilty. This isn't about morality, its about bringing down Trump. That's all the democrats are now a days. No. But what if the files implicate trump? Will you continue to support him? MTG was heartfelt and impressive in this morning’s presser. Khana and Massie equally. I doubt I’ll ever agree with MTG on most matters but she gained respect today. No doubt she’s betting on the fall of trump while seeing higher office in her future but this stance shows impressive courage. 1
teef Posted 40 minutes ago Posted 40 minutes ago 59 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: The majority of democrats will think the files are fake if trump isn't guilty. This isn't about morality, its about bringing down Trump. That's all the democrats are now a days. it's not all bringing down trump at all. do you not think there are democrat names in there? this isn't a big dems vs trump conspiracy...it's far bigger than that, and to continually call this is hoax and act like it isn't important is disgusting. on top of that, a lot of this speculation and doubt is directly a result to how trump has handled this, which is poorly. you can't say you'll release the files, to suddenly not wanting to release the files while moving maxwell and calling people that cared losers. think about that...trump referred to people who wanted the files released as losers, and told them not to talk about it anymore. now he's changing his mind again and wants them released. he just hasn't handled this well. there's also people who don't want it released strictly for political reasons, and that's ***** disgusting. 1 1
B-Man Posted 17 minutes ago Posted 17 minutes ago Thomas Massie's Latest Epstein Files Claim Is Too Cute by Half FTA: MASSIE: Some people have said, ‘Well, how will you know that he’s released the files?’ We will know when rich and powerful men are implicated. So they’ve claimed that they’ve been releasing thousands, tens of thousands of documents to Congress already. But what we’ve discovered is there’s not a single new name in those documents. We know because we have survivors through their lawyers who’ve told us that they have names. We know, they know who’s in those files, and we’ll know if he’s given us a complete release. Let me stop him right there because that's not how this works. The absence of evidence is not evidence in and of itself, and it's a logical fallacy to assert that unless the files tell him what he wants to hear, that must indicate there are more files. If there's not a "single new name," it is perfectly possible that's because there are no more names. Suspicions of a broader conspiracy, and I've had my own over the years surrounding this case, are not sufficient in this context. As to the claim that there are survivors who have "told us that they have names," that is hopelessly ambiguous. What if the names are just the names we already know? Regardless, at some point, and that point was a while ago, if they aren't willing to release the names and make their accusations public, then there's nothing else to be done here. I realize the response will be that they signed NDAs, but NDAs can not legally be used to cover up criminal activity, and in such a situation, can be broken to report the crime to the police. This entire thing has turned into a game of circular logic, where a lack of evidence is treated as evidence, and the best sources (the victims) aren't expected to actually be sources. Why would I care what Epstein's emails say if almost all the women he trafficked are alive and able to testify? If rich and powerful people committed sex crimes in conjunction with Epstein, then they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Turning this purely into a political issue, absconding from any attempt at legal justice against these suggested other perpetrators, is just a bit too convenient for me. I think Massie knows that, but he's so deep in his own sauce that he can't be objective anymore. https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/11/18/thomas-massies-latest-epstein-files-claim-is-too-cute-by-half-n2196309
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 11 minutes ago Posted 11 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, teef said: it's not all bringing down trump at all. do you not think there are democrat names in there? this isn't a big dems vs trump conspiracy...it's far bigger than that, and to continually call this is hoax and act like it isn't important is disgusting. on top of that, a lot of this speculation and doubt is directly a result to how trump has handled this, which is poorly. you can't say you'll release the files, to suddenly not wanting to release the files while moving maxwell and calling people that cared losers. think about that...trump referred to people who wanted the files released as losers, and told them not to talk about it anymore. now he's changing his mind again and wants them released. he just hasn't handled this well. there's also people who don't want it released strictly for political reasons, and that's ***** disgusting. Read what I wrote and try again. Maybe you should stop coming here, you seem completely unhinged. The dems won't care that people on thier side are guilty if trump isn't. Don't you think the democrat party should be more than orange man bad? 30 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: No. But what if the files implicate trump? Will you continue to support him? MTG was heartfelt and impressive in this morning’s presser. Khana and Massie equally. I doubt I’ll ever agree with MTG on most matters but she gained respect today. No doubt she’s betting on the fall of trump while seeing higher office in her future but this stance shows impressive courage. Guaranteed you were calling her bat ***** crazy, but now she's cool cause she's against trump. Nice.
teef Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Read what I wrote and try again. Maybe you should stop coming here, you seem completely unhinged. The dems won't care that people on thier side are guilty if trump isn't. Don't you think the democrat party should be more than orange man bad? Guaranteed you were calling her bat ***** crazy, but now she's cool cause she's against trump. Nice. unhinged? honestly...i really wonder about the hard core maga people around here. there's just a total lack of common sense. you just said the dems won't care if people on their side are guilty if trump isn't. other than you emotion and bad dems, you have zero basis for making that claim. i think most people want it out. those that don't are just protecting trump or his administration. i've said multiple times i don't think trump has acted criminally as a pedo, but he's certainly hiding something. people can call it a hoax all they want, this needs to be released. i don't know how anyone can argue that.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted just now Posted just now 1 minute ago, teef said: unhinged? honestly...i really wonder about the hard core maga people around here. there's just a total lack of common sense. you just said the dems won't care if people on their side are guilty if trump isn't. other than you emotion and bad dems, you have zero basis for making that claim. i think most people want it out. those that don't are just protecting trump or his administration. i've said multiple times i don't think trump has acted criminally as a pedo, but he's certainly hiding something. people can call it a hoax all they want, this needs to be released. i don't know how anyone can argue that. You clearly haven't interacted with a modern day democrat have u?
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