Being realistic about the experience and talent Josh and Daboll have to work with

[BillsSB2020]

19 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

 

Yeah sure ace I missed the point. After yet another thread which starts out castigating “people” whining and criticizing Allen and/or Daboll and offering up yet another variation of “they have no help.” That excuse hasn’t been used constantly innumerable times here in response to anyone, ANYONE who dares to think Allen, despite his awesome potential, still has a lot to improve upon or that Daboll’s success has been uneven at best. I missed the point. 

 

Keep it up though with the short, dismissive of responses though. That’s all you have to offer here after all.

I'll be right there with you if Allen lays an egg in Foxborough. Not gonna happen. Kid has too much fight. We may not win, but Allen is growing by leaps and bounds with each and every start. Daboll is starting to turn this thing around as well. We were historically bad and he adjusted and we're shaping up and shipping out the dead weight.

[Magox]

33 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

You and many other fans are simply assuming this because the offense had been a disaster for most of the year. 

 

We don't know who set the board for the draft last year and their offensive moves to this point(outside of Allen) have been awful. 

 

They have a lot to prove. 

Excuse me.

 

If Foster had been a second round draft choice and was producing at the level he has been, almost everyone would be saying HOMERUN!!!

 

The fact that he was an undrafted rookie makes it even better.

 

McKenzie is beginning to look like another keeper.

 

Your characterization is flat out false.

Edited December 20, 2018 by Magox

[Jerome007]

What is kind of weird is that while there are so many holes, we can easily picture the offense getting better by next year. More experience for Allen and for Allen-Daboll together, Teller, Foster. Add 2 good OLinemen and 2 WRs through FA (lots of cap space next year) and draft picks, and the difference could be humongous. Defense should remain as good too. Special teams can't get much worse except for Haushka who has been money. 

[Magox]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Um Zay Jones and Kelvin Benjamin. 

 

Foster has been good for 5 weeks. The improvement is very encouraging but not enough of a sample size. McKenzie is a slot guy, nothing more. 

 

You expect Rome to be built in a day? 

 

Zay wasn't Beane's guy and Benjamin was a whiff.

 

If the Bills aren't markedly better by next year on offense you'll have a case, right now all you have is sour grapes because they got rid of Whaley, the under performing Watkins, the legendary JAG Williams and god knows who else you are still upset about.

 

Give it a year and lets see what happens then.

[RPbillsfan]

On 12/19/2018 at 8:39 AM, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

It's both encouraging and a little discouraging. Encouraging in the sense that he's been able to be decent and show considerable promise with such trash around him. Discouraging that this is what the FO has after 2 offseasons, and that we need that same FO to fill so many holes with high quality players. 

 

The o-line especially just needs a ton of work. Dawkins is really only an adequate starter at LT and while we hope Teller can be a starter, we don't really know that he can yet. And that's it. Everyone else on the o-line is horrific, including our "depth" guys. 

With no salary cap space the offense is what you can afford.

 

100% certain there will be at least 2 OL signing and maybe 3, possibly one or two added in the draft.  One RB, TE and WR in free agency and then draft best available in round 1 and fill needs with the rest