MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Cruiserplayer said: Incognitos restructure saves 1.675 mill this year. So up to 22ish in space 17ish once Kyle applied 26M if we dont count draft pool right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So up to 22ish in space 17ish once Kyle applied 26M if we dont count draft pool right now. With Incognito's restructure the 51 cap is currently 23.3 million. After Kyle and the other 5 sign, I get after offsetting $550,000 (that is the offset now) somewhere around 15 million. Subtract 10 million (Rookie offset is actually around 5.5 million after their offset and a little breathing room Beane talked about) you are left with 5 million. Moves Beane COULD make. 1.) Restructure Hughes/McCoy. Only the 2019 year to do restructure and if Beane does that you are pretty much committed them to playing for Bill's in 2019, could net 2-8 million depending on the deal. 2.) Signing Kelvin Benjamin to a long term contract. His cap hit is $8,459,000. You could maybe save 2-3 million 2018 cap hit. Don't know if that is in Beane's plans about Benjamin. 3.) Clay has been already restructured so other than a pay cut nothing is left with him. 4.) Outright cutting Lorax, Mills and Miller nets close to 2 million for each. But I don't see any of those happening. 5.) That's it except for little moves. Beane could wait until after the draft to sign Kyle. This may give him some time to look into some of these other moves. Bill's will get some cap relief after June 1st with Dead Money moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: With Incognito's restructure the 51 cap is currently 23.3 million. After Kyle and the other 5 sign, I get after offsetting $550,000 (that is the offset now) somewhere around 15 million. Subtract 10 million (Rookie offset is actually around 5.5 million after their offset and a little breathing room Beane talked about) you are left with 5 million. Moves Beane COULD make. 1.) Restructure Hughes/McCoy. Only the 2019 year to do restructure and if Beane does that you are pretty much committed them to playing for Bill's in 2019, could net 2-8 million depending on the deal. 2.) Signing Kelvin Benjamin to a long term contract. His cap hit is $8,459,000. You could maybe save 2-3 million 2018 cap hit. Don't know if that is in Beane's plans about Benjamin. 3.) Clay has been already restructured so other than a pay cut nothing is left with him. 4.) Outright cutting Lorax, Mills and Miller nets close to 2 million for each. But I don't see any of those happening. 5.) That's it except for little moves. Beane could wait until after the draft to sign Kyle. This may give him some time to look into some of these other moves. Bill's will get some cap relief after June 1st with Dead Money moves. Why are you subtracting another 10M. The rookie pool is already accounted for in the 23M in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Why are you subtracting another 10M. The rookie pool is already accounted for in the 23M in space. Current Spotrac Bill's Cap. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ Cap Space (w/All) $17,863,557 Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool) $13,527,335 Cap Space (w/Top 51) $23,293,557 Edited March 21, 2018 by ColoradoBills add link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Current Spotrac Bill's Cap. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ Cap Space (w/All) $17,863,557 Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool) $13,527,335 Cap Space (w/Top 51) $23,293,557 Ok tracking. Either way they want to sign any player they can. I personally wouldnt until QB in place meaning after draft but there is alot of players to free up money this year. And more space opens 1 june with Eric Retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Ok tracking. Either way they want to sign any player they can. I personally wouldnt until QB in place meaning after draft but there is alot of players to free up money this year. And more space opens 1 june with Eric Retirement I agree, that's why I showed some possible moves. Beane still could sign a couple of decent guys easily. I didn't believe it at first but now I do think he is doing everything to get to #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I agree, that's why I showed some possible moves. Beane still could sign a couple of decent guys easily. I didn't believe it at first but now I do think he is doing everything to get to #2. Yep they are not going to use all those picks. By use i mean actually keep them and draft in those spots Edited March 21, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep they are not going to use all those picks. By use i mean actually keep them and draft in those spots One surprising thing I just seen last week is #2 pick comes with a 5.725 million 2018 cap hit. That equals Bills first 2's and 2 2nd's. Didn't realize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: One surprising thing I just seen last week is #2 pick comes with a 5.725 million 2018 cap hit. That equals Bills first 2's and 2 2nd's. Didn't realize that. True. Which is why I think they try to get to 2 using this year picks only (frees cap space in a tight cap year). Saving as many picks next year when is the year they better greatly improve and contend for a run with QB in place (hopefully) and 100M in cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Nice work guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer The one-year deal OT Marshall Newhouse signed with the Bills is worth $1.5 million with $500,000 guaranteed, and a $1.75 million salary cap number. He received a $1 million base salary, a $500,000 signing bonus and has a $250,000 likely-to-be-earned incentive based on playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer Kyle Williams' one-year deal with the Bills is worth $5.5 million with $4.5 million guaranteed. He gets a fully-guaranteed $2.25 million base salary, a $2.25 million signing bonus, a $500,000 workout bonus and a roster bonus of $500,000 payable in $31,250 per game on 46-man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer Center Russell Bodine's two-year deal with the Bills is worth $5 million with $2.15 million guaranteed, and cap numbers of $2.15 million (2018) and $2.875 million (2019). He has a signing bonus of $1 million, base salaries of $1.15 million (2018; fully guaranteed) and $1.9 million (2019). He gets roster bonuses of up to $275,000 each season, payable in $17,187 per game on 46-man roster. There are also workout bonuses of $200,000 each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer Center Russell Bodine's two-year deal with the Bills is worth $5 million with $2.15 million guaranteed, and cap numbers of $2.15 million (2018) and $2.875 million (2019). He has a signing bonus of $1 million, base salaries of $1.15 million (2018; fully guaranteed) and $1.9 million (2019). He gets roster bonuses of up to $275,000 each season, payable in $17,187 per game on 46-man roster. There are also workout bonuses of $200,000 each season. 2.15 for a back-up c/g...I can deal with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: 2.15 for a back-up c/g...I can deal with that. Not a bad price at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Current Bills Cap Space Numbers. The only adjustments left are Taiwan Jones and Logan Thomas. Both should only add up to 400-500k. Cap Space (w/All) $9,333,557 Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool) $6,662,335 Cap Space (w/Top 51) $16,428,557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Current Bills Cap Space Numbers. The only adjustments left are Taiwan Jones and Logan Thomas. Both should only add up to 400-500k. Cap Space (w/All) $9,333,557 Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool) $6,662,335 Cap Space (w/Top 51) $16,428,557 That probably leaves them with close to $11 million after you factor in the top 7 picks in the draft pool push about $4 mil worth of salaries off the top 51. They can easily bring back a guy like L. Johnson at vet min, and maybe squeeze one more guy on for $1-1.5 mil, maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, TPS said: That probably leaves them with close to $11 million after you factor in the top 7 picks in the draft pool push about $4 mil worth of salaries off the top 51. They can easily bring back a guy like L. Johnson at vet min, and maybe squeeze one more guy on for $1-1.5 mil, maybe... Don't forgot about injuries..you always need some insurance cap in the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Don't forgot about injuries..you always need some insurance cap in the bank. If they have $10-11 to play with, picking up LJ at vet min will add about $250k, finding another guy at $2 mil adds a net $1.4, so they'll have their insurance money. I'm guessing, down the line--meaning when it gets to the final 53, they might let one of Miller/Ducasse go as both will save over $1 mil if released. Edited March 24, 2018 by TPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Current Bills Cap Space Numbers. The only adjustments left are Taiwan Jones and Logan Thomas. Both should only add up to 400-500k. Cap Space (w/All) $9,333,557 Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool) $6,662,335 Cap Space (w/Top 51) $16,428,557 It took them long enough to count Kyles $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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