jeffismagic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 By that definition...? Who wouldn't define a "run" as winning at least a couple games? Considering our new HC and what he did 2 years ago on defense, I have hope. McDermott's defense was worse than Rex's last year in yards and points per game. Bills have lack of safeties, corners, and linebackers. I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 By that definition...? Who wouldn't define a "run" as winning at least a couple games? Considering our new HC and what he did 2 years ago on defense, I have hope. One thing we will have to do better is generate first downs on offense. We were 16th in the league last year I believe, in 2015 when the Panthers had their season to remember they were good for 4th at moving the chains. I'm off the opinion that McD really isn't some defensive genius, and that defense was really the result of a core group of elite/borderline elite at important positions + a very complimentary Cam Newton offense. Tough to replicate that formula IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 McDermott's defense was worse than Rex's last year in yards and points per game. Bills have lack of safeties, corners, and linebackers. I don't see it. But what did his defense do 2 years ago? I understand your position, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 The Panthers lost Josh Norman to the Skins last season. That talent was sorely missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 But what did his defense do 2 years ago? I understand your position, though. I think McDermott has proven with elite talent he can do well. Bills don't have that on defense at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) I think McDermott has proven with elite talent he can do well. Bills don't have that on defense at the moment. what elite talent did he have on his prior defenses besides Josh Norman? Edited March 17, 2017 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 what elite talent did he have on his prior defenses besides Josh Norman? Kuechly, Davis, Short, and Lotulelei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Kuechly, Davis, Short, and Lotulelei. Lotuleilei is not an elite talent, and I don't think I'd call Davis elite either, but Short and Kuechly for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Kuechly, Davis, Short, and Lotulelei. No shoutout for the captain ? Munnerlyn in the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Lotuleilei is not an elite talent, and I don't think I'd call Davis elite either, but Short and Kuechly for certain. And the Bills have one player. Dareus who we hope is not smoking and fooling around or injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Kuechly, Davis, Short, and Lotulelei. Kuch and Short for sure But I will say that we are not lacking talent on our defense...as a matter of fact our D line is very good. We lost Gilmore....so there is that.....but I think Darby slips into that role just fine. Its nots not a complete picture because we will pick up some guys from the draft....would like to see a veteran corner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Lotuleilei is not an elite talent, and I don't think I'd call Davis elite either, but Short and Kuechly for certain. Disagree, Lotulelei might be borderline but Davis is as good an LB as 90% of NFL rosters could ask for. The dude gets after it every play, he just isn't really a household name but he can do it all well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 And the Bills have one player. Dareus who we hope is not smoking and fooling around or injured. I know this group did not play well last year.....but I think we need to see players at their natural postions in a 4/3 before making a statement like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 And the Bills have one player. Dareus who we hope is not smoking and fooling around or injured. I would call Buffalo's defensive talent, from top-to-bottom, about on-par with Carolina. DL's are about even, though I think Buffalo has better pass rushers LB's are clearly better in Carolina by a sizeable margin DB's are probably close to a wash, but the presence of Darby and addition of Hyde has me leaning Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I would call Buffalo's defensive talent, from top-to-bottom, about on-par with Carolina. DL's are about even, though I think Buffalo has better pass rushers LB's are clearly better in Carolina by a sizeable margin DB's are probably close to a wash, but the presence of Darby and addition of Hyde has me leaning Buffalo But not compared to their 2015 roster, which was as well balanced a defense as you could hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I would call Buffalo's defensive talent, from top-to-bottom, about on-par with Carolina. DL's are about even, though I think Buffalo has better pass rushers LB's are clearly better in Carolina by a sizeable margin DB's are probably close to a wash, but the presence of Darby and addition of Hyde has me leaning Buffalo Buffalo finished 19th in defense last year and Carolina finished 20th. But Bills defensive line has Kyle Williams who is in rapid decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 But not compared to their 2015 roster, which was as well balanced a defense as you could hope for. And I'd give Buffalo's 2014 roster the edge over Carolina's 2015...that's probably why each unit's performance dipped Buffalo finished 19th in defense last year and Carolina finished 20th. But Bills defensive line has Kyle Williams who is in rapid decline. Neither of those comments reflects the talent on this roster right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 And I'd give Buffalo's 2014 roster the edge over Carolina's 2015...that's probably why each unit's performance dipped Neither of those comments reflects the talent on this roster right now. Well, bandit we lost our #1 Corner. We replaced one starting safety with a backup in Poyer. Hyde is an add since Aaron was barely on the field last year. Wild cards are Shaq, Ragland, and any draft additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Lotuleilei is not an elite talent, and I don't think I'd call Davis elite either, but Short and Kuechly for certain. He's a Star! I'll see myself out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well, bandit we lost our #1 Corner. We replaced one starting safety with a backup in Poyer. Hyde is an add since Aaron was barely on the field last year. Wild cards are Shaq, Ragland, and any draft additions. The elephant in the room is scheme Rex coached this defense into the ground....it was also very undiciplined watching lots of TIVO where the D was committing penalties to keep opponents offensive drive's going. Does the switch make to a 4/3 make a immediate improvement? Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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