richstadiumowner Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Tough to do in an unfree societies. Dictatorships, economic stagnation and oppression don't really allow for freedom to reform. /// Frederick of Saxony and many other German prices supported Luther. As a matter of fact, he told Charles V "Here I stand and I can do no there" when asked to recant his works. And then he walked away from there. A vatican door? You mean at the castle in Wittenberg? Frederick of Saxony is hardly the prevailing opinion on the planet. Quite the reverse actually You don't think muslims are smart enough, (inbreeding), or are they too lazy? Edited March 16, 2017 by richstadiumowner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 1) Frederick of Saxony is hardly the prevailing opinion on the planet. Quite the reverse actually 2) You don't think muslims are smart enough, (inbreeding), or are they too lazy? 1) He had the power to protect the radical thinking of Luther and to help his movement spread. 2) I think the dictatorships of today are much more powerful and stamp out liberal thought easier. Muslims are trapped politically and that restricts religious freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 He's trying Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richstadiumowner Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) 1) He had the power to protect the radical thinking of Luther and to help his movement spread. 2) I think the dictatorships of today are much more powerful and stamp out liberal thought easier. Muslims are trapped politically and that restricts religious freedom Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria all so called democratic states with elected politicians. These countries, whether you agree they're democracies or not, are far easier to flee and the preponderance of non muslim countries accept refugees openly. On the other hand, there where nothing but virtual dictators of today in 1540 and very few places to run to. 1) Salman Rushdie, Arian Hirshi Ali and countless other apostates have the backing of everybody on earth except muslims themselves . Every other country in the world is Frederick of Saxony. Nails, hammers and doors are trumped with the literacy, internet, printing presses, books, phones, faxes etc .... it isn't even close. Your original point is wrong. Edited March 16, 2017 by richstadiumowner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria all so called democratic states with elected politicians. These countries, whether you agree they're democracies or not, are far easier to flee and the preponderance of non muslim countries accept refugees openly. On the other hand, there where nothing but virtual dictators of today in 1540 and very few places to run to. 1) Salman Rushdie, Arian Hirshi Ali and countless other apostates have the backing of everybody on earth except muslims themselves . Every other country in the world is Frederick of Saxony. Nails, hammers and doors are trumped with the literacy, internet, printing presses, books, phones, faxes etc .... it isn't even close. Your original point is wrong. If you stick around long enough, you'll find that every point he tries to make is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria all so called democratic states with elected politicians. These countries, whether you agree they're democracies or not, are far easier to flee and the preponderance of non muslim countries accept refugees openly. On the other hand, there where nothing but virtual dictators of today in 1540 and very few places to run to. 1) Salman Rushdie, Arian Hirshi Ali and countless other apostates have the backing of everybody on earth except muslims themselves . Every other country in the world is Frederick of Saxony. Nails, hammers and doors are trumped with the literacy, internet, printing presses, books, phones, faxes etc .... it isn't even close. Your original point is wrong. No, you are wrong. Salman Rushdie had to go into hiding and could never build any sort of movement. The governments like oppressive religions because the make the governments more secure. How many muslims have been stoned to death in America? If you stick around long enough, you'll find that every point he tries to make is wrong. You are jealous of people that can actually make arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richstadiumowner Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 If you stick around long enough, you'll find that every point he tries to make is wrong. Yeah I noticed. I enjoy driving a truck down the I 90 of glaringly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Yeah I noticed. I enjoy driving a truck down the I 90 of glaringly stupid. So your argument is basically that the religion is evil? Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 No, you are wrong. Salman Rushdie had to go into hiding and could never build any sort of movement. The governments like oppressive religions because the make the governments more secure. How many muslims have been stoned to death in America? You are jealous of people that can actually make arguments Did you get your period yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Yeah I noticed. I enjoy driving a truck down the I 90 of glaringly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Did you get your period yet? Now now, even Azalin isn't retarded enough to say that. And he is pretty retarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Now now, even Azalin isn't retarded enough to say that. And he is pretty retarded I was just trying to figure out why you don't use them, you little pissant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richstadiumowner Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 So your argument is basically that the religion is evil? Is that correct? Evil is as evil does. My point is that your assertion "Tough to do in an unfree societies. Dictatorships, economic stagnation and oppression don't really allow for freedom to reform." is so glaringly wrong that you're reduced to dunking on your own basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Evil is as evil does. My point is that your assertion "Tough to do in an unfree societies. Dictatorships, economic stagnation and oppression don't really allow for freedom to reform." is so glaringly wrong that you're reduced to dunking on your own basket. So you have no point except to say without a real argument that I am wrong. Stupid. "Evil is as evil does." Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Evil is as evil does. My point is that your assertion "Tough to do in an unfree societies. Dictatorships, economic stagnation and oppression don't really allow for freedom to reform." is so glaringly wrong that you're reduced to dunking on your own basket. OK rich, you've hit your daily adjective quotient for the word 'glaring'...time to be a little more creative. Nice to see you BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richstadiumowner Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 OK rich, you've hit your daily adjective quotient for the word 'glaring'...time to be a little more creative. Nice to see you BTW. Must be the spring air, I'm flowery that way. Likewise, 8 glad to hear from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Please. Don't. Feed. Tiberius. He eats brains. Edited March 16, 2017 by Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 He eats brains. Thus proving the falsehood of the age-old expression "you are what you eat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Please. Don't. Feed. Tiberius. He eats brains. You should change your name, you are not worthy of that name. Edited March 16, 2017 by Tiberius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Yeah I noticed. I enjoy driving a truck down the I 90 of glaringly stupid. Hey! Save some of that for the tournament... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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