truth on hold Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Bomb must have been loaded in Paris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Bomb must have been loaded in Paris.I wouldn't rush so fast to that conclusion. For one why didn't it go off earlier during the flight like the one brought down the Russian airline? Also it seems airbuses have an issue with fatal stalls from cruising altitude. Anyway R.I.P. to the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Hmmmm... Edited May 19, 2016 by truth on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 ISIS? Russia? IDF? Who was on the plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Russia's FSB claims missing EgyptAir plane 'crash most likely terrorism' and reveals country foiled Paris-style attack http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russias-fsb-claims-missing-egyptair-8005739 Edited May 19, 2016 by truth on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Looking more and more like a bomb. Was not a rush to think it was a bomb. Just common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Looking more and more like a bomb. Was not a rush to think it was a bomb. Just common senseWell if the subsequent report is true that it dropped 22k feet, then stabilized, turn left 90 degrees, then right 360 degrees...I would think that pattern takes stall out of the equation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I wouldn't rush so fast to that conclusion. For one why didn't it go off earlier during the flight like the one brought down the Russian airline? Also it seems airbuses have an issue with fatal stalls from cruising altitude. Anyway R.I.P. to the victims. They have no such history. Incompetent air crews maybe, but the airplane is super reliable. With all the terror problems in France, a bomb cannot be ruled out. They can be timed. Remember PanAm over Lockerbe? Also till the radar tracks can be matched to the flight data recorder, they may not be totally reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Anyone have subtitles in English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 my hunch is mechanical failure, not act of terror. EgyptAir Flight Data Shows Smoke Detected in Bathroom Before Crashhttp://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/egyptair-crash/egyptair-flight-data-shows-smoke-detected-bathroom-crash-report-n577716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 my hunch is mechanical failure, not act of terror. EgyptAir Flight Data Shows Smoke Detected in Bathroom Before Crashhttp://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/egyptair-crash/egyptair-flight-data-shows-smoke-detected-bathroom-crash-report-n577716 because smoke never comes from incendiary devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 because smoke never comes from incendiary devicesAnother report said the plane had not broken apart. This is unlike the Russian jet. Sounds to me like a fire caused a problem with controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Another report said the plane had not broken apart. This is unlike the Russian jet. Sounds to me like a fire caused a problem with controls. i am not sure. i have an idea who it was... i think slash might have a lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) my hunch is mechanical failure, not act of terror. EgyptAir Flight Data Shows Smoke Detected in Bathroom Before Crashhttp://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/egyptair-crash/egyptair-flight-data-shows-smoke-detected-bathroom-crash-report-n577716 Lots of smokers cannot control themselves but this very excessive for those morons; fortunately the Ralph is made of concrete and our morons not that creative. It might even be the pilot or other crew member. AvHerald.com first reported that data transmissions from EgyptAir Flight 804 to ground stations show smoke was detected in a bathroom near the cockpit. NBC News has confirmed the messages are authentic. Edited May 20, 2016 by Koolaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) I'm sure it wasnt a cigarette. That wouldn't bring down a plane. Although on a 15 hr flight I have considered opening up one of the doors. Edited May 21, 2016 by Bakin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 could be system failure w/o terror.... Meanwhile, the Aviation Herald, which reports on aviation news, reported on Friday that it had received information from "three independent channels" that the plane's communications system had sent messages saying that there was smoke in the lavatory and avionics system and that there were faults in the "FCU" and "SEC 3." The FCU, or flight control unit, refers to a control panel used by the pilot to control settings such as speed and altitude. According to a report by NBC News' Tom Costello, the SEC 3 is a computer that controls the plane's spoilers and elevator computers. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/20/egypt-finds-egyptair-flight-ms804-passengers-bodies-amid-reports-of-smoke-on-plane.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 If it was a fire, they can be devastating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudia_Flight_163 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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