Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 His words are an explanation. How does he know that it is FSB & NSA? So he explains how he "knows" (even though he doesn't claim to know and is instead offering a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence and conventional wisdom) and you want... another explanation? 7) Why did they do it? No one knows, but I suspect this is more diplomacy than intelligence, related to the escalation around the DNC hack. 8) Circumstantial evidence and conventional wisdom indicates Russian responsibility. Here's why that is significant: 9) This leak is likely a warning that someone can prove US responsibility for any attacks that originated from this malware server. 10) That could have significant foreign policy consequences. Particularly if any of those operations targeted US allies. 11) Particularly if any of those operations targeted elections. 12) Accordingly, this may be an effort to influence the calculus of decision-makers wondering how sharply to respond to the DNC hacks. 13) TL;DR: This leak looks like a somebody sending a message that an escalation in the attribution game could get messy fast. Bonus: When I came forward, NSA would have migrated offensive operations to new servers as a precaution - it's cheap and easy. So? So... The undetected hacker squatting on this NSA server lost access in June 2013. Rare public data point on the positive results of the leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 So he explains how he "knows" (even though he doesn't claim to know and is instead offering a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence and conventional wisdom) and you want... another explanation? 7) Why did they do it? No one knows, but I suspect this is more diplomacy than intelligence, related to the escalation around the DNC hack. 8) Circumstantial evidence and conventional wisdom indicates Russian responsibility. Here's why that is significant: 9) This leak is likely a warning that someone can prove US responsibility for any attacks that originated from this malware server. 10) That could have significant foreign policy consequences. Particularly if any of those operations targeted US allies. 11) Particularly if any of those operations targeted elections. 12) Accordingly, this may be an effort to influence the calculus of decision-makers wondering how sharply to respond to the DNC hacks. 13) TL;DR: This leak looks like a somebody sending a message that an escalation in the attribution game could get messy fast. Bonus: When I came forward, NSA would have migrated offensive operations to new servers as a precaution - it's cheap and easy. So? So... The undetected hacker squatting on this NSA server lost access in June 2013. Rare public data point on the positive results of the leak. Counterpoint: Snowden is full of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Counterpoint: Snowden is full of ****. That's what GG wants to say, that and he's a Russian agent, but he wants to beat around the bush rather than read what's written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Russian warplanes take off from Iran to target ISIS in Syria Fox News - 2 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Russian warplanes take off from Iran to target ISIS in Syria Fox News - 2 hours ago And China's getting in on the action too: https://www.rt.com/news/356161-china-syria-military-training/ China ‘to provide aid, enhance military training’ in Syria – top army official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 That's what GG wants to say, that and he's a Russian agent, but he wants to beat around the bush rather than read what's written. He's not a Russian agent. He's just a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 That's what GG wants to say, that and he's a Russian agent, but he wants to beat around the bush rather than read what's written. Whether he's full of **** isn't the issue. By now, he's become a complete useful idiot for Putin. This was predicted as soon as he was granted asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Rumors Fly After Ivanka Trump Vacations With Reported Girlfriend of Vladimir Putin Mediaite - 1 day ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's not a Russian agent. He's just a moron. And yet in this case he's probably correct in terms of why the hackers are publicizing this particular breech -- especially if they're state sponsored. It's showing the West that they (whoever they are) have the ability to prove which hacks originated from US intelligence agencies. It's likely a blackmail play: we can prove you did XYZ and now you know we can. It'll be interesting to see the fallout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Rumors Fly After Ivanka Trump Vacations With Reported Girlfriend of Vladimir Putin Mediaite - 1 day ago That's a stupid article. Ivanka and Deng have been friends for a long long time. And yet in this case he's probably correct in terms of why the hackers are publicizing this particular breech -- especially if they're state sponsored. It's showing the West that they (whoever they are) have the ability to prove which hacks originated from US intelligence agencies. It's likely a blackmail play: we can prove you did XYZ and now you know we can. It'll be interesting to see the fallout. And it's perfect to have Snowden deliver that message. Putin is going to run circles around Trump or Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 And it's perfect to have Snowden deliver that message. The message was delivered without Snowden's commentary the moment the hackers announced their haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The message was delivered without Snowden's commentary the moment the hackers announced their haul. And that story was buried until Snowden piped in with his tweets. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 And that story was buried until Snowden piped in with his tweets. Coincidence? Not at all. For as much grief as you give Putin for having his media in lockstep, you're seemingly blind to the fact the west does the same with their media outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Russia Rises by Dr. Charles KrauthammerRead more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439165/foreign-policy-russia-iran-challenge-united-states Under President Obama, a passive U.S. foreign policy has allowed belligerent rivals to gather strength. This week Russian bombers flew out of Iranian air bases to attack rebel positions in Syria. The State Department pretended not to be surprised. It should be. It should be alarmed. Iran’s intensely nationalistic revolutionary regime had never permitted foreign forces to operate from its soil. Until now. The reordering of the Middle East is proceeding apace. Where for 40 years the U.S.–Egypt alliance anchored the region, a Russia–Iran condominium is now dictating events. That’s what you get after eight years of U.S. retrenchment and withdrawal. That’s what results from the nuclear deal with Iran, the evacuation of Iraq, and utter U.S. immobility on Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Meanwhile on cnn, an anchor crying because of that little boy who was pulled out of the rubble. Care to guess who dropped the bomb that led to that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Meanwhile on cnn, an anchor crying because of that little boy who was pulled out of the rubble. Care to guess who dropped the bomb that led to that situation? CNN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 CNN? Yep. Wolf blitzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Not much of a choice at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Yep. Wolf blitzerFigures there's a Buffalo tie-in for the bad things going on in this world. It's just a matter of time until Rex is to blame. Edited August 19, 2016 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Yep. Wolf blitzer No, I mean CNN dropped the bomb. It's the only explanation for why they're crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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