TakeYouToTasker Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 GG: That's not a vindication of that point. Part of what we're dealing with can be described as self fulfilling prophecy, atleast in the rapidity of escalation. Regardless, that's another thread. As I told gator, we're talking about today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorguy Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 "So to say that it's the US invasion that started the Islamist wave is the predictable reaction of ignorant linear thinkers" This also ignores the Barbary Pirates. Jefferson and Adams understood the movement in the 1700's, now progressives want to ignore history and blame US military actions. Laughable at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Come on, at least say something funny. If you can't even do that, then you're officially worthless. He/it [i suspect gator may be a computer generated response] has been worthless since he seamlessly took over the class clown position from Conner. Question is why do posters on here respond to him seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'm late to the party here, but just off the top of my head I am not surprised by the title. Your effort in thinking is something left to be desired so whatever you've said is no shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) maybe we should go back and look at which ppp posters supported the war and which were against it. i'm betting it'll fall heavily on separate sides of cons/liberals. oh, and bush iii just named paul wolfowitz as an advisor http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/jeb-bush-policy-advisers-brothers/... finally, i guess family values http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/2016-election-jeb-bush-family-105748_Page2.html slogans aren't gonna be a big part of jeu's campaign. Edited February 19, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yeah there are some nasty skeletons in his closet. Care to comment on his remark about illegal immigration being an act of love. I bet you got a boner over that line. If he gets the nomination I'll most likely go third party again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 He/it [i suspect gator may be a computer generated response] has been worthless since he seamlessly took over the class clown position from Conner. Question is why do posters on here respond to him seriously? I can't speak for others, but I think a lot of what he says is funny. There's little to no thought put into any of it - it's' just automatic gainsay of whatever someone else is saying, often devolving into biting epithets like 'poop head', motivated by the belief that you don't lose the argument as long as you can reply with something - anything - no matter how irrelevant or scatological it may be. There's entertainment in that. I don't mind when he singles me out and insults me, but I expect it to have at least a little comic value. Otherwise, it's just annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yeah there are some nasty skeletons in his closet. Care to comment on his remark about illegal immigration being an act of love. I bet you got a boner over that line. If he gets the nomination I'll most likely go third party again. not to mention his being part of this unholy trinity: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/rick-scott-jeb-bush-marco-rubio-and-co-raising--for-fla-gop/2218007. what the hell is wrong with floridians? rick scott? really. but seriously, who here is going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I can't speak for others, but I think a lot of what he says is funny. There's little to no thought put into any of it - it's' just automatic gainsay of whatever someone else is saying, often devolving into biting epithets like 'poop head', motivated by the belief that you don't lose the argument as long as you can reply with something - anything - no matter how irrelevant or scatological it may be. There's entertainment in that. I don't mind when he singles me out and insults me, but I expect it to have at least a little comic value. Otherwise, it's just annoying. That's why I think he's a computer that was programmed as a 7th grade class project. You know the age where a good comeback is making fart noises with your armpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 That's why I think he's a computer that was programmed as a 7th grade class project. You know the age where a good comeback is making fart noises with your armpit. You may well be giving him a little too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 You may well be giving him a little too much credit. Yup, armpit farts are really third grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 maybe we should go back and look at which ppp posters supported the war and which were against it. i'm betting it'll fall heavily on separate sides of cons/liberals. oh, and bush iii just named paul wolfowitz as an advisor http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/jeb-bush-policy-advisers-brothers/... finally, i guess family values http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/2016-election-jeb-bush-family-105748_Page2.html slogans aren't gonna be a big part of jeu's campaign. Wolfowitz?? We will be welcomed as liberators!!! Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 GG: That's not a vindication of that point. Part of what we're dealing with can be described as self fulfilling prophecy, atleast in the rapidity of escalation. Regardless, that's another thread. As I told gator, we're talking about today. Can't argue that the rapid escalation is clearly due to a leadership vacuum in the region. But on the broader self fulfilling prophecy question, it's clear to me that it would have been inevitable. ISIS was able to step into the open gulf because they had an organization in place, that was built on something that's been rising for decades. If you look at the organization and what they've been able to accomplish you know it's impossible to cobble that multi-national logistics structure and execution in less than three years. They were well down that road and the conflict was inevitable. Yeah there are some nasty skeletons in his closet. Care to comment on his remark about illegal immigration being an act of love. I bet you got a boner over that line. If he gets the nomination I'll most likely go third party again. Just for kicks, other than the Bush name, what makes Jeb a bad candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Wolfowitz?? We will be welcomed as liberators!!! Wow! handley is in there too. fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice... jeb must think republican voters are mostly idiots. oh, wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Can't argue that the rapid escalation is clearly due to a leadership vacuum in the region. But on the broader self fulfilling prophecy question, it's clear to me that it would have been inevitable. ISIS was able to step into the open gulf because they had an organization in place, that was built on something that's been rising for decades. If you look at the organization and what they've been able to accomplish you know it's impossible to cobble that multi-national logistics structure and execution in less than three years. They were well down that road and the conflict was inevitable. ? You mean the vacuum created by Saddam's departure or the one left by the corrupt regime we left in place there that oppressed the Sunnis? handley is in there too. fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice... jeb must think republican voters are mostly idiots. oh, wait. He does, the way he and his brother handled the Terri Schivo situation is a case in point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Just for kicks, other than the Bush name, what makes Jeb a bad candidate? Good question. As I've mentioned in another thread (or maybe this one) I have not been paying too much attention. The election is 20 months away. So at this point it's just the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Just for kicks, other than the Bush name, what makes Jeb a bad candidate? I think he is a great candidate. I love him. Can't believe our luck he is running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think he is a great candidate. I love him. Can't believe our luck he is running Says the guy who says he'd vote for Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Says the guy who says he'd vote for Hillary. What's that got to do with Jeb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 What's that got to do with Jeb? Seriously? You mention Hillary in your OP and you ask ME what she has to do with Jeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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