Kelly the Dog Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It goes both ways. Dalton has had Green, Bernard, & Efert hurt for a lot of the year. So no, I don't think Orton can be like Dalton because he wAs never as good as him to begin with. And he sucked without Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 And he sucked without Green. You win Kelly. Even though Dalton is statistically better, been to the playoffs ever year if his career while Orton has gone once, & is younger, Orton is the better qb. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Agree 100%. He's terrible in big games. But he's better than Orton. And all it takes is to get hot one postseason like Peyton's goofy Int throwing brother did twice. I'd kill for that goofy bastrd to lead this team. Edited November 28, 2014 by filthymcnasty08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 You win Kelly. Even though Dalton is statistically better, been to the playoffs ever year if his career while Orton has gone once, & is younger, Orton is the better qb. Makes sense. I was specifically responding to your points. Dalton has decent stats and production and he has always played with one of the 2-3 best wideouts in the game. It's a LOT of people's opinions, not mine, that his stats and success are a direct result of it. And that he is, in reality, a mediocre talent. Personally I never ever wanted him as my QB. Before and after he was drafted. And before and after his playoff success. Said it 100 times here. You can't win it all with guys like that. You can't be great with a rag arm. I don't want a guy I don't think I can win with. I know Dalton is not good enough. He has had the tools and to me he has shown his limitations. Orton has not shown that yet. I do think that Dalton has had a better career than Orton. But if I had to chose I would want Orton. I know Dalton is limited. I only think strongly that Orton is. He's never had the chances that Dalton has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I was specifically responding to your points. Dalton has decent stats and production and he has always played with one of the 2-3 best wideouts in the game. It's a LOT of people's opinions, not mine, that his stats and success are a direct result of it. And that he is, in reality, a mediocre talent. Personally I never ever wanted him as my QB. Before and after he was drafted. And before and after his playoff success. Said it 100 times here. You can't win it all with guys like that. You can't be great with a rag arm. I don't want a guy I don't think I can win with. I know Dalton is not good enough. He has had the tools and to me he has shown his limitations. Orton has not shown that yet. I do think that Dalton has had a better career than Orton. But if I had to chose I would want Orton. I know Dalton is limited. I only think strongly that Orton is. He's never had the chances that Dalton has. Fair enough and I disagree. Orton has had 10 years. He is very limited. He struggles to score tds. He played with D. Thomas and Eric Decker in Denver. I think if he wasn't a Bill, we won't even have this conversation. Orton should be a backup qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Chris Gragg would like to send his thanks to Orton for him being OUT for the Browns game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 i'm off the Orton is mediocre bandwagon. Orton now officially sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Today, Kyle looks like he could be like Andy Devine... On second thought, most young folks don't know who the heck Andy Devine is. He was Wild Bill Hickok's sidekick Jingles for you oldsters out there. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0222596/ Edited December 1, 2014 by Dennis in AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 can't believe i'm saying this... put EJ in for 2nd half.... either EJ plays better or we further prove he sucks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) can't believe i'm saying this... put EJ in for 2nd half.... either EJ plays better or we further prove he sucks too. Spoke too soon. All aboard! Edited November 30, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'm really happy that the Bills won, but KO is not even OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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