ExiledInIllinois Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Sorry I think you're no doubt a good guy but Tom is right. You can babble on and on like the village idiot. I am disagreeing with you, so for sure it is babble. As much as you want all the "liberal", democrat controlled cities to fail, that just isn't going to happen. But rally around your Detroits & Buffalo's. So, I babble on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Sorry I think you're no doubt a good guy but Tom is right. You can babble on and on like the village idiot. I hope you don't think that is a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I did mention: "Merry Misfits" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I am disagreeing with you, so for sure it is babble. As much as you want all the "liberal", democrat controlled cities to fail, that just isn't going to happen. But rally around your Detroits & Buffalo's. So, I babble on... You certainly are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) You certainly are. So you think all liberal, democrat controlled cities are going to fail. They all have the same "common denominator." Your babble is worse than mine! Edited February 25, 2014 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 So you think all liberal, democrat controlled cities are going to fail. They all have the same "common denominator." Your babble is worse than mine! When did I say that? Quote me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 For a grossly crowded and overpopulated state like California I suppose shutting down a military base is like the local tastey freeze closing. In many areas they are the life blood. Not every one can get a IT job Gene's opinion notwithstanding. Tough ****. Drastic times call for drastic measures. If it's determined the local miltary base needs to close you close it. If the jobs leave your area you leave and go where the jobs are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 When did I say that? Quote me. You didn't. I am glad you think otherwise. Tough ****. Drastic times call for drastic measures. If it's determined the local miltary base needs to close you close it. If the jobs leave your area you leave and go where the jobs are. Spot on. But that Congressperson will fight tooth and nail for what's best for his constituents and not in the best interest of the whole country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Tough ****. Drastic times call for drastic measures. If it's determined the local miltary base needs to close you close it. If the jobs leave your area you leave and go where the jobs are. I know you like being a hard guy but if you've been working on base for 30 years it's not that easy. I understand its necessary to close bases from time to time but I don't like the way you shrug it off as so what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 You didn't. I am glad you think otherwise. Go to the OP and click on the link and read the article. Because they are failing now doesn't mean they will go bankrupt or can't turn things around. The main economic problems are that the city and school administrations are in bed with the unions. The unions back the politicians and the politicians give the unions what they want. The unions overwhelmingly support democrats. It should be obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I know you like being a hard guy but if you've been working on base for 30 years it's not that easy. I understand its necessary to close bases from time to time but I don't like the way you shrug it off as so what. Military bases are not to be treated as federal job subsidies. It has to be treated as "so what" whenever their need becomes redundant or obsolete. Getting hung up on "the needs of the local population" when it comes to federal spending is no different than the auto bailouts in Detroit or the Big Bank bailouts if you're going to approach base closings from that vantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I know you like being a hard guy but if you've been working on base for 30 years it's not that easy. I understand its necessary to close bases from time to time but I don't like the way you shrug it off as so what. Life ain't easy. How do you feel with auto plants, steel mills, call centers, department stores, etc etc close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yep! And that they will do. I agree. But there are only so many places to go in this country before you run out of areas. Last man standing. Too bad for places like Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit. The last two dogs standing along the Great Lakes will be Toronto & Chicago. Everybody can't fail. Yeah, that is a bit arrogant of me... We will see what happens. I hate the cliche because it makes me want to puke, but lack of "Vision" makes these places the economic nidus they have become. Perhaps Buffalo was doomed as soon as water based transpot gave way to rail, or when manufacturing left, but I don't see much in that city that reeks of innovative economic or policy strategy- hence wh I live in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Military bases are not to be treated as federal job subsidies. It has to be treated as "so what" whenever their need becomes redundant or obsolete. Getting hung up on "the needs of the local population" when it comes to federal spending is no different than the auto bailouts in Detroit or the Big Bank bailouts if you're going to approach base closings from that vantage. I said I understand base closings can be necessary. What I objected to was Jims "so they can just move to where the jobs are" Who gives a crap attitude. As I type this half my renters are military. Not all of us are high powered financial advisers, or what ever the hell he does in Gov moonbeams state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I said I understand base closings can be necessary. What I objected to was Jims "so they can just move to where the jobs are" Who gives a crap attitude. As I type this half my renters are military. Not all of us are high powered financial advisers, or what ever the hell he does in Gov moonbeams state. Ohhhh, I get it now. It's all about you. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Ohhhh, I get it now. It's all about you. Got it. Yes I am the sole person in the US who has a monetary stake in a military base. I will say, for the 3rd time I understand some base closings are necessary. And I will say again, for the 2nd time its you're "tough tomato's just pull up stakes and move" attitude I don't like.Edit: I have no fear about my local MBs. Alaska is just to important. Edited February 25, 2014 by Jim in Anchorage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yes I am the sole person in the US who has a monetary stake in a military base. I will say, for the 3rd time I understand some base closings are necessary. And I will say again, for the 2nd time its you're "tough tomato's just pull up stakes and move" attitude I don't like. Edit: I have no fear about my local MBs. Alaska is just to important. Well I'm a tough love kind of guy. You won't ever see me coddle anyone. And if you don't like that attitude I'm surprised because you seem to display that sometimes yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Well I'm a tough love kind of guy. You won't ever see me coddle anyone. And if you don't like that attitude I'm surprised because you seem to display that sometimes yourself. No coddling here. I lived in buffalo and saw the last slag pour light up the sky. Accepted it but sure didn't like it. Or tell every one to move. I get things move on but some people have deep roots in where they live and it's more than just a paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Abortion-sterilization clinics operating 24/7/365 in America's cities solve all of our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Abortion-sterilization clinics operating 24/7/365 in America's cities solve all of our problems. I'm curious... Did you used to post as Dave in Norfolk? I'm noting many similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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