Hammered a Lot Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I only heard the end of the high light tape at noon. Did I hear this right??? I checked out the company myself, I am respected in the business community (???), I only tried to help people make money. Was he talking about 5linx???? Is 5linx a scam or did it fail?? Anyone!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZC-Boston Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 What is 5linx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 What is 5linx? Google 5linx and find out. Still did any locals hear the interview??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 What is 5linx? 213405[/snapback] 5Linx Jim Kelly Infomercial Tells all............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Marketing scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Marketing scam. 214562[/snapback] Why would Jimbo go along with what is basically Amway for communications equipment? I'm fairly certain he doesn't need the dough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 Marketing scam. Any more Info. Mark? I almost got involved with the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Marketing scam. Any more Info. Mark? I almost got involved with the program. 215117[/snapback] Whew, Multi-Level Marketing (MLM). There's usually no middle ground on this; either people are convinced they're going to make "$x,xxx in one week working at home!", or they believe it's another scam in a long line of programs that make the real money by selling the program to other hopeful entepreneurs, and not on the actual product. Some research will reveal pretty much the same supporters and detractors on both sides of any MLM program. I've been looking for ideas to start my own business, and MLM's don't appeal to me. Try to find sources in your research that are not trying to sell you something - many sources that disparage MLM are in fact trying to sell you something else. Be careful with your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Didn't Jim Kelly stiff a lot of people in Buffalo with his resturant? I have heard many people were not happy with him cause he never paid his debts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 i personally wouldn't get started on the selling long distance thing. If you know anything about computers and the Internet, start doing some research into making money online. It may take you a while to learn the ropes but there is a lot of upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripes Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Just to make this simple: 5Links is an obvious ripoff. First, believing that 5Links' local/long distance/wireless/Internet/Web Hosting, etc. products can beat Baby Bell pricepoints is ludicrous. Unless 5Links has announced wholesale deals with wrieless and landline carriers that allow them to undersell those same carriers' retail prices. And we know what their secret is: the product does not make money for the representatives. It's lining up the reps below you where you'll make money. And here's where mathematics defy multi-level marketing reasoning. The only way multi-level marketing can work is in a pyramid -- there have to always be people on the bottom producing for people above them. And the people on the bottom have to have people below them so they can earn money. Let's pretend each rep must bring in five others in order to turn a profit. At any point where one level quits making money, it's dead. Here's the absolute best scenario for a success multi-level marketing program: 1 must attract 5. Those 5 must attract 5 each, bringing in a total of 25 new members. Those 25 need to bring in more people -- 625 to be exact. Then those 625 must attract 3,125 more. Then 3,125 must attract 15,625. 15,625 must attract 78,125. 78,125 must attract 390,625. 390,625 must attract 1,953,125. 1,953,125 must attract 9,765,625. 9,765,625 must attract 48,828,125. 48,828,125 must attract 244,140,625. 244,140,625 must attract 1,220,703,125 1,220,703,125 must bring in 6,103,515,625 Then 6,103,515 625 salesman must begin immediate space colonization efforts to find intelligent life in the universe to hawk internet or cell phone service to, since we're out of human beings on planet Earth for Team 5Links. Unfortunately for them, these creatures probably already have DSL -- or telepathy. Shame on Jim Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 "by placing tiny classified ads..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 What IS the fascination with this guy? Sure he (along with an excellent supporting cast) took us to 4 SB's but the guy was dumb as rocks and something less than a character guy. Every time Kelly goes on TV or radio we get a thread here. Who the heck cares what this guy says or does? Oh, and where can I send my check for Crabbe's research? As if Jim needs my $20. Suckers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Oh, and where can I send my check for Crabbe's research? As if Jim needs my $20. Suckers! 216276[/snapback] That money doesn't go to Kelly; researching cures for diseases costs a LOT of money; more than even Manning has. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 What IS the fascination with this guy? Sure he (along with an excellent supporting cast) took us to 4 SB's but the guy was dumb as rocks and something less than a character guy. Every time Kelly goes on TV or radio we get a thread here. Who the heck cares what this guy says or does? Oh, and where can I send my check for Crabbe's research? As if Jim needs my $20. Suckers! Cynic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 Just to make this simple: 5Links is an obvious ripoff. And we know what their secret is: the product does not make money for the representatives. It's lining up the reps below you where you'll make money. And here's where mathematics defy multi-level marketing reasoning. The only way multi-level marketing can work is in a pyramid -- there have to always be people on the bottom producing for people above them. And the people on the bottom have to have people below them so they can earn money. Let's pretend each rep must bring in five others in order to turn a profit. At any point where one level quits making money, it's dead. Here's the absolute best scenario for a success multi-level marketing program: 1 must attract 5. Those 5 must attract 5 each, bringing in a total of 25 new members. Those 25 need to bring in more people -- 625 to be exact. Then those 625 must attract 3,125 more. Then 3,125 must attract 15,625. 15,625 must attract 78,125. 78,125 must attract 390,625. 390,625 must attract 1,953,125. 1,953,125 must attract 9,765,625. 9,765,625 must attract 48,828,125. 48,828,125 must attract 244,140,625. 244,140,625 must attract 1,220,703,125 1,220,703,125 must bring in 6,103,515,625 Then 6,103,515 625 salesman must begin immediate space colonization efforts to find intelligent life in the universe to hawk internet or cell phone service to, since we're out of human beings on planet Earth for Team 5Links. Unfortunately for them, these creatures probably already have DSL -- or telepathy. Shame on Jim Kelly. Are you the star of that new TV program numbers??? I stayed away from 5Linx when I heard Jim Kelly was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZone78 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Whew, Multi-Level Marketing (MLM). There's usually no middle ground on this; either people are convinced they're going to make "$x,xxx in one week working at home!", or they believe it's another scam in a long line of programs that make the real money by selling the program to other hopeful entepreneurs, and not on the actual product. Some research will reveal pretty much the same supporters and detractors on both sides of any MLM program. I've been looking for ideas to start my own business, and MLM's don't appeal to me. Try to find sources in your research that are not trying to sell you something - many sources that disparage MLM are in fact trying to sell you something else. Be careful with your money. 215126[/snapback] CaWingNut....read the works of Robert Kiyosaki of the Rich Dad Poor Dad series. Not all MLM companies are bad, some are quite good....but having said that, make sure you do a thorough due diligence process. EG make sure the company is publically traded, that sort of thing. Donald Trump was asked on David Letterman a few years that if he had to do it all over again how would he do it....Donald responded, Network Marketing....a few audience people laughed....Donald said, do you think that's funny? That's why I'm sitting here and why you're sitting there. Classic. Most people don't understand that the wealthy build networks and other people look for work. Ted Turner built the CNN television Network, Donald Trump has his network of casino's, hotels, Ray Kroc had his network of McDonald's etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZone78 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Just to make this simple: 5Links is an obvious ripoff. The only way multi-level marketing can work is in a pyramid -- there have to always be people on the bottom producing for people above them. And the people on the bottom have to have people below them so they can earn money. Let's pretend each rep must bring in five others in order to turn a profit. At any point where one level quits making money, it's dead. "there have to always be people on the bottom producing for people above them" A Pyramid?!?!?! CEO Vice President's Senior Managers District Managements Middle Management/Office Management A whole bunch of Office Staff working 9-5 if they're lucky Finally we have a whole bunch of lesser workers producing the product in a plant. Gee, kinda looks like a pyramid! I'm just having fun with you guys....again, I'd recommend you read up on the industry first before making any comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Didn't Jim Kelly stiff a lot of people in Buffalo with his resturant? I have heard many people were not happy with him cause he never paid his debts. 215139[/snapback] I have a friend that was working there at the time it closed..... Jim Kelly is/was a great QB, fine humanitarian...... But...... Jim Kelly + Business Venture = Disaster in the making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I have a friend that was working there at the time it closed..... Jim Kelly is/was a great QB, fine humanitarian...... But...... Jim Kelly + Business Venture = Disaster in the making 217633[/snapback] I've got a great idea - let's vote him into public office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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