enlightener Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) I replayed some key plays over and over and saw the following... 1. Plays where all 4 receivers ran a 5 yard hook, DBs and WRs alike stood there looking at EJ with no deep route, no crossing pattern. this is pathetic I watched EJ smartly hold it and try to avoid a sack but whats he supposed to do? no wonder he had 8 sacks, I blame the OC not designing plays with outlets. Secondly, the passes out of bounds were EJs fault but whys that the only outlet pass? those are low percentage plays to begin with. 3. CJ- he was given no running room, bad run blocking (besides Brown) I saw Wood do little and Glenn miss blocks, the whole idea of shotgun sweep plays is a joke, those rarely work but even worse when that's your only run play. The fumbles are still on Spiller and his last name is becoming his trademark. GIVE HIM SOME SCREENS AND DRAWS HACKETT!!!! why is it every year there is one coach/player that absolutely holds us back from success? Rob Johnson, Gilbride, Trent, Wanstadt/G.Edwards and this years candidate.... Hackett. One more side note, as bad as EJ and CJ looked, look how good McKelvin and the linebackers look with a new D coordinator. If the former bust McKelvin can be successful with a good DC, maybe its why EJ and CJ look so bad this year. Edited September 23, 2013 by enlightener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BringBackFergy Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Not sure why you're confused. I understood his post. Lays some blame at the feet of the offensive coordinator. How is this confusing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Not sure why you're confused. I understood his post. Lays some blame at the feet of the offensive coordinator. How is this confusing?? Â Edit: No Comment. Edited September 23, 2013 by microscopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) I don't want to say too much and it be considered as crusading, but I'm a bit confused how only 2 of the 5 out of bounds throws were EJ's fault. But I'm going to leave it at that and exit this thread. its point # two ---see the point after the 2? I cant space out or put breaks in my posts for some reason. Edited September 23, 2013 by enlightener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I replayed some key plays over and over and saw the following... 1. Plays where all 4 receivers ran a 5 yard hook, DBs and WRs alike stood there looking at EJ with no deep route, no crossing pattern. this is pathetic I watched EJ smartly hold it and try to avoid a sack but whats he supposed to do? no wonder he had 8 sacks, I blame the OC not designing plays with outlets. 2. passes out of bounds were EJs fault but whys that the only outlet pass? those are low percentage plays to begin with. 3. CJ- he was given no running room, bad run blocking (besides Brown) I saw Wood do little and Glenn miss blocks, the whole idea of shotgun sweep plays is a joke, those rarely work but even worse when that's your only run play. The fumbles are still on Spiller and his last name is becoming his trademark. GIVE HIM SOME SCREENS AND DRAWS HACKETT!!!! why is it every year there is one coach/player that absolutely holds us back from success? Rob Johnson, Gilbride, Trent, Wanstadt/G.Edwards and this years candidate.... Hackett. One more side note, as bad as EJ and CJ looked, look how good McKelvin and the linebackers look with a new D coordinator. If the former bust McKelvin can be successful with a good DC, maybe its why EJ and CJ look so bad this year. Â I agree that Hackett seems to be in over his head. Let's hope he's smart and a fast learner. Maybe he will learn and get better along with Manuel. We can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 its point # two ---see the point after the 2? I cant space out or put breaks in my posts for some reason. Running the same play over and over like Cj is a true power back makes no sense. It's laughable. How does our o coordinator not know this??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I think many of our concerns are coming to fruition: Hacket does appear over his head. I hope the plays are simple so the rookie QB can make fewer mistakes, and not due to inexperience at OC. Â Either way, that game, especially our offensive playcalling and inability to hit the fly route, was unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Â Running the same play over and over like Cj is a true power back makes no sense. It's laughable. How does our o coordinator not know this??????? Â I can watch McCoy run the same plays no problem. Spiller is back to happy feet if you watch him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) I can watch McCoy run the same plays no problem. Spiller is back to happy feet if you watch him play. Â You're right. Â But yesterday was not CJ's fault. The offensive line just couldn't create any holes for him. Â And sure, play-calling was very much to blame for that as well. Edited September 23, 2013 by microscopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You're right. Â But yesterday was not CJ's fault. Â And play-calling was very much to blame. LOL, LOL, LOL....I knew you couldn't just leave the thread alone. You said you were exiting the thread and suddenly appear. I'm ok with that mind you, you are now free to walk about the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I can watch McCoy run the same plays no problem. Spiller is back to happy feet if you watch him play. That's when coaching comes into play. Screens, line him up as a wr, direct snap, the freaking wildcat. The point is switch the damn play. This is not tecmo bowl. We have more than 2 running plays... Â Ps. You cant compare the two. It's like Reggie Bush. He's explosive in space. RB like Cj are not power backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 LOL, LOL, LOL....I knew you couldn't just leave the thread alone. You said you were exiting the thread and suddenly appear. I'm ok with that mind you, you are now free to walk about the thread. Â You realize I replied and talked about SPILLER, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You realize I replied and talked about SPILLER, right? "But I'm going to leave it at that and exit this thread"...but then you decided to edit the post and come back in with CJ. Plus the initial " " was somewhat perplexing since I knew what the OP was talking about. Just made me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Â That's when coaching comes into play. Screens, line him up as a wr, direct snap, the freaking wildcat. The point is switch the damn play. This is not tecmo bowl. We have more than 2 running plays... Â Ps. You cant compare the two. It's like Reggie Bush. He's explosive in space. RB like Cj are not power backs. Â I only can't compare them b.c you don't want me to. Don't you think they have a reason they are not doing screens? Just like the reason they weren't going down field but you wanted them to throw it and look how that turned out. Edited September 23, 2013 by Meatloaf Sandwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I replayed some key plays over and over and saw the following... 1. Plays where all 4 receivers ran a 5 yard hook, DBs and WRs alike stood there looking at EJ with no deep route, no crossing pattern. this is pathetic I watched EJ smartly hold it and try to avoid a sack but whats he supposed to do? no wonder he had 8 sacks, I blame the OC not designing plays with outlets. 2. passes out of bounds were EJs fault but whys that the only outlet pass? those are low percentage plays to begin with. 3. CJ- he was given no running room, bad run blocking (besides Brown) I saw Wood do little and Glenn miss blocks, the whole idea of shotgun sweep plays is a joke, those rarely work but even worse when that's your only run play. The fumbles are still on Spiller and his last name is becoming his trademark. GIVE HIM SOME SCREENS AND DRAWS HACKETT!!!! why is it every year there is one coach/player that absolutely holds us back from success? Rob Johnson, Gilbride, Trent, Wanstadt/G.Edwards and this years candidate.... Hackett. One more side note, as bad as EJ and CJ looked, look how good McKelvin and the linebackers look with a new D coordinator. If the former bust McKelvin can be successful with a good DC, maybe its why EJ and CJ look so bad this year. Â EJ turned low percentage plays into 0% plays. 5 yards out of bounds isn't a tad over or underthrown, it's uncatchable. And that's a waste of a down. Â Still like the kid, but you can't just say, "who cares they don't usually work anyway." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Why would anyone watch this mess again? Go outside and enjoy the weather or something my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 "But I'm going to leave it at that and exit this thread"...but then you decided to edit the post and come back in with CJ. Plus the initial " " was somewhat perplexing since I knew what the OP was talking about. Just made me chuckle. Â I'm staying away from anything EJ related. Â Just talking about Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 CJ is just as capable as last year. It's all how you use him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I replayed some key plays over and over and saw the following... 1. Plays where all 4 receivers ran a 5 yard hook, DBs and WRs alike stood there looking at EJ with no deep route, no crossing pattern. this is pathetic I watched EJ smartly hold it and try to avoid a sack but whats he supposed to do? no wonder he had 8 sacks, I blame the OC not designing plays with outlets. 2. passes out of bounds were EJs fault but whys that the only outlet pass? those are low percentage plays to begin with. 3. CJ- he was given no running room, bad run blocking (besides Brown) I saw Wood do little and Glenn miss blocks, the whole idea of shotgun sweep plays is a joke, those rarely work but even worse when that's your only run play. The fumbles are still on Spiller and his last name is becoming his trademark. GIVE HIM SOME SCREENS AND DRAWS HACKETT!!!! why is it every year there is one coach/player that absolutely holds us back from success? Rob Johnson, Gilbride, Trent, Wanstadt/G.Edwards and this years candidate.... Hackett. One more side note, as bad as EJ and CJ looked, look how good McKelvin and the linebackers look with a new D coordinator. If the former bust McKelvin can be successful with a good DC, maybe its why EJ and CJ look so bad this year. Agree about Hackett. He's over his head. I hate to say it, but he needs to study some of last year's film of how Chan used CJ in getting him out into open spaces to move the ball down the field, as well as Chan's play-action & screen pass variations. That's my 2 cents, anyway. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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