GG Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 This hasn't been said in this thread yet, "You're an idiot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 This hasn't been said in this thread yet, "You're an idiot" Ok.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 leninism, yes... workers councils and labor ownership has worked fine in parts of europe, especially germany. it was also working great during the spanish revolution in 1936 until hitler invaded. other philosophies of social democracy in the economy has worked very well in south america among a myriad of other places.... and capitalism, in its current form is failing and incredibly corrupt along with being a welfare system for the elite rich... as far as capital ownership with no state protection in a laissez faire market, thats has not existed. there are various reasons why including state interest in keeping business afloat... What the !@#$? Hitler invaded Spain? Just shut up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 What the !@#$? Hitler invaded Spain? Just shut up already. I have a feeling that one will live on here for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 What the !@#$? Hitler invaded Spain? Just shut up already. you do realize hitler sent aid and military help to the nationalists to defeat the anarchist uprising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 you do realize hitler sent aid and military help to the nationalists to defeat the anarchist uprising... Now he invaded to combat the anarchists' revolution? !@#$ing priceless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 you do realize hitler sent aid and military help to the nationalists to defeat the anarchist uprising... By that logic, I suppose the US invaded Libya, Syria and the Congo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Now he invaded to combat the anarchists' revolution? !@#$ing priceless... Can you guess what the weapon of choice was for Hitler's forces during his Spanish Invasion? Hammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Now he invaded to combat the anarchists' revolution? !@#$ing priceless... ummm, yes tom... the nationalists were on his side and also provided great strategic posiiton... lol Can you guess what the weapon of choice was for Hitler's forces during his Spanish Invasion? Hammers. so you were wrong lol... By that logic, I suppose the US invaded Libya, Syria and the Congo. the nazis sent troops to help the nationalists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 ummm, yes tom... the nationalists were on his side and also provided great strategic posiiton... lol so you were wrong lol... the nazis sent troops to help the nationalists... You're an idiot. The anarchists weren't staging an uprising, they were part of the loyalist faction. It was the Nationalists that were staging a coup. And "sent troops to help..." is not "invading." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) You're an idiot. The anarchists weren't staging an uprising, they were part of the loyalist faction. It was the Nationalists that were staging a coup. And "sent troops to help..." is not "invading." no ****, it started in 1930 and was working very well until hitler invaded along with the nationalist forces. he sent troops, tanks, and killed thousands, to create an alliance... yes, it was practially an ivansion against the anarchist group... look up 1936 elections...lol leninism, yes... workers councils and labor ownership has worked fine in parts of europe, especially germany. i it was also working great during the spanish revolution in 1936 until hitler invaded. other philosophies of social democracy in the economy has worked very well in south america among a myriad of other places.... and capitalism, in its current form is failing and incredibly corrupt along with being a welfare system for the elite rich... as far as capital ownership with no state protection in a laissez faire market, thats has not existed. there are various reasons why including state interest in keeping business afloat... the anarchist revolution became official in 1936, subsequently the nationalist uprising... !@#$tard... Edited September 4, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 no ****, it started in 1930 and was working very well until hitler invaded along with the nationalist forces. he sent troops, tanks, and killed thousands, to create an alliance... yes, it was practially an ivansion against the anarchist group... look up 1936 elections...lol the anarchist revolution became official in 1936, subsequently the nationalist uprising... !@#$tard... And you'd be right except for two words: "anarchist" (the center-left got most of the votes in the 1931 election, far more than the anarcho-socialists), and "revolution" (it was the result of the negotiated abdication of the Spanish king, not a revolution.) And in as much as the "anarchists" were in power, they would have been out of it again in '33, when the center-right won the elections. So you're arguing that Hitler (really, Mussolini...Italy contributed about five times as much to the Nationalists as Germany) invaded (really, provided aid. There was never anything resembling an occupation - hell, what few German forces there were, were under Spanish command) Spain to combat an anarchist (really, Republican Loyalist, who were primarily center-left socialists) uprising (which were general election results). Aside from getting damn near everything wrong...you're spot-on accurate. Stop reading the wishful thinking of anarchists and read a damn book, moron. (Try Beevor, first.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) you do realize hitler sent aid and military help to the nationalists to defeat the anarchist uprising... What the !@#$ is this revisionist bull ****??? C'mon, man. You really need to avail yourself of some alternative sources to the utopian anarchist propaganda you've been reading. Edited September 4, 2012 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) What the !@#$ is this revisionist bull ****??? C'mon, man. You really need to avail yourself of some alternative sources to the utopian anachist propaganda you've reading. It gets far worse. Just wait until he starts copying and pasting entire chapters from Das Kapital, tossing around terms like indefinite interest and surplus value, while switching intermittently between investment, lending and corporate operations concepts or examples. The stupidity you've witnessed thus far is only the tip of the iceberg. Just ask him about how capitalism doesn't work because his dreams of a start-up, multi-national, bicycle manufacturing, hammer conglomerate have failed to materialize because Wal-Mart has cheaper access to advertising. You heard it here first. Economies of scale are a repudiation of capitalism. Among my other favorites are his theory that the marginal productivity curve proves that profit is stealing. And I nearly forgot his theory of bearing no risk because the loan gets paid back. And in the event of default, well, fiat is imaginary anyway. Edited September 4, 2012 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 It gets far worse. Just wait until he starts copying and pasting entire chapters from Das Kapital, tossing around terms like indefinite interest and surplus value, while switching intermittently between investment, lending and corporate operations concepts or examples. The stupidity you've witnessed thus far is only the tip of the iceberg. Just ask him about how capitalism doesn't work because his dreams of a start-up, multi-national, bicycle manufacturing, hammer conglomerate have failed to materialize because Wal-Mart has cheaper access to advertising. You heard it here first. Economies of scale are a repudiation of capitalism. Among my other favorites are his theory that the marginal productivity curve proves that profit is stealing. And I nearly forgot his theory of bearing no risk because the loan gets paid back. And in the event of default, well, fiat is imaginary anyway. When you say it, it just sounds so much funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 It gets far worse. Just wait until he starts copying and pasting entire chapters from Das Kapital, tossing around terms like indefinite interest and surplus value, while switching intermittently between investment, lending and corporate operations concepts or examples. The stupidity you've witnessed thus far is only the tip of the iceberg. Just ask him about how capitalism doesn't work because his dreams of a start-up, multi-national, bicycle manufacturing, hammer conglomerate have failed to materialize because Wal-Mart has cheaper access to advertising. You heard it here first. Economies of scale are a repudiation of capitalism. Among my other favorites are his theory that the marginal productivity curve proves that profit is stealing. And I nearly forgot his theory of bearing no risk because the loan gets paid back. And in the event of default, well, fiat is imaginary anyway. So far my favorite has been his regurgitated dreck about labor exploitation creating surplus value. That garbage has been long since discarded by anyone who recognizes that: a) labor has value b) different types of labor are valued differently c) labor is a commodity d) a free person must be said to be the owner of his labor e) a free person must be able to trade something he owns for something he places at an equal or greater value f) as a commodity, labor can be bought or sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldTraveller Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 It gets far worse. Just wait until he starts copying and pasting entire chapters from Das Kapital, tossing around terms like indefinite interest and surplus value, while switching intermittently between investment, lending and corporate operations concepts or examples. The stupidity you've witnessed thus far is only the tip of the iceberg. Just ask him about how capitalism doesn't work because his dreams of a start-up, multi-national, bicycle manufacturing, hammer conglomerate have failed to materialize because Wal-Mart has cheaper access to advertising. You heard it here first. Economies of scale are a repudiation of capitalism. Among my other favorites are his theory that the marginal productivity curve proves that profit is stealing. And I nearly forgot his theory of bearing no risk because the loan gets paid back. And in the event of default, well, fiat is imaginary anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 And you'd be right except for two words: "anarchist" (the center-left got most of the votes in the 1931 election, far more than the anarcho-socialists), and "revolution" (it was the result of the negotiated abdication of the Spanish king, not a revolution.) And in as much as the "anarchists" were in power, they would have been out of it again in '33, when the center-right won the elections. So you're arguing that Hitler (really, Mussolini...Italy contributed about five times as much to the Nationalists as Germany) invaded (really, provided aid. There was never anything resembling an occupation - hell, what few German forces there were, were under Spanish command) Spain to combat an anarchist (really, Republican Loyalist, who were primarily center-left socialists) uprising (which were general election results). Aside from getting damn near everything wrong...you're spot-on accurate. Stop reading the wishful thinking of anarchists and read a damn book, moron. (Try Beevor, first.) so hitler sent troops and aid to help defeat the anarchist uprising... ok, yes you proved im right... wow, just wow... It gets far worse. Just wait until he starts copying and pasting entire chapters from Das Kapital, tossing around terms like indefinite interest and surplus value, while switching intermittently between investment, lending and corporate operations concepts or examples. The stupidity you've witnessed thus far is only the tip of the iceberg. Just ask him about how capitalism doesn't work because his dreams of a start-up, multi-national, bicycle manufacturing, hammer conglomerate have failed to materialize because Wal-Mart has cheaper access to advertising . You heard it here first. Economies of scale are a repudiation of capitalism. yes walmart can outcompete others with access to cheap labor and capital leverage... see small business getting wiped out by walmart all over country you stupid !@#$... Among my other favorites are his theory that the marginal productivity curve proves that profit is stealing. And I nearly forgot his theory of bearing no risk because the loan gets paid back. And in the event of default, well, fiat is imaginary anyway. no, risk does not justify profits... yes there is risk, for capital and labor, but mostly labor, and only labor after a certain point... see surplus value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) JESUS !@#$ING CHRIST, FIX YOUR !@#$ING QUOTE TAGS YOU STUPID BASTARD! When you lazily insert bolded paragraphs into the middle of a quoted post, it makes it more dificult for the responder to engage you in conversation, because first they must cut and paste everything you quote, clean it up by cutting out the text of the person you were quoting and their quote labeling, segment everything into coherent paragraphs, and only then are they able to engage you. Stop doing that, and be a more considerate poster. Edited September 4, 2012 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 so hitler sent troops and aid to help defeat the anarchist uprising... ok, yes you proved im right... wow, just wow... And in the event of default, well, fiat is imaginary anyway. no, risk does not justify profits... yes there is risk, for capital and labor, but mostly labor, and only labor after a certain point... see surplus value Except, as I already pointed out, Hitler didn't invade Spain, and there was no anarchist uprising. You are one dumb mother!@#$er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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