You herd it hear last Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) We definitely needed another thread about this. Wait... there wasn't one?... is this 6023598764?... I must have the wrong number sorry... No sarcasm but can Sheppard play outside? Can Kuechly? If neither can I'm not sure forcing either to the outside or bench is justified. Sheepherder struggles to play inside... he ain't the fastest of the cats... I love Kuechly at ten. from what I have been listening to. He can play any position at LB.. Inside, outside no matter. Tackling machine!! COLLEGE tackling machine... I can see his size being an issue ( I know, that's what she said) Edited April 24, 2012 by madtowntobuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 No sarcasm but can Sheppard play outside? Can Kuechly? If neither can I'm not sure forcing either to the outside or bench is justified. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/kelvin-sheppard?id=2495229 Sheppard could handle SAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'll be very upset if the Bills take Gilmore/Kirkpatrick in favor of Kuechly or Floyd. SLB and number two WR are just as important for the Bills to address, so why take the lesser talent? The Kuechly and Floyd draft stocks are much more valuable than the Gilmore of Kirkpatrick stocks in my opinion just based on their production in college and their preparedness for the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Wait... there wasn't one?... is this 6023598764?... I must have the wrong number sorry... Sheepherder struggles to play inside... he ain't the fastest of the cats... COLLEGE tackling machine... I can see his size being an issue ( I know, that's what she said) His size is not an issue We definitely needed another thread about this. so why are you posting on the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I can see his size being an issue He was 6-3-242 at the Combine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiebills Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 He was 6-3-242 at the Combine... Yep bigger than Willis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 If Kuechly could fix the TE problem (NE) that would be great. With an increased pass rush, Brady dumpoffs to the TE should be on the increase. As for Welka'? I was just reviewing some of the most recent drafts. It was like going to bed dreaming about Christmas only to instead get a nightmare of no Christmas (other than Dareus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbills315 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I would be happy with him or Floyd or even happier with Kalil falls to us! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 If Kuechly could fix the TE problem (NE) that would be great. With an increased pass rush, Brady dumpoffs to the TE should be on the increase. As for Welka'? I was just reviewing some of the most recent drafts. It was like going to bed dreaming about Christmas only to instead get a nightmare of no Christmas (other than Dareus). Everyone keeps bringing this up... NO ONE is going to stop the TEs in NE. Gronkowski went an entire season without getting stopped and put up one of the best TE seasons in the history of the league. Truth is, no one in the league can stop him 1 on 1. Hopefully Kuechly can contribute to a solution where we limit the production.. but the problem will never be "fixed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 After watching this guy play in ACC and ESPN special on him if we have a shot at him it would not be disappointed with this selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoutbox Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Everyone keeps bringing this up... NO ONE is going to stop the TEs in NE. Gronkowski went an entire season without getting stopped and put up one of the best TE seasons in the history of the league. Truth is, no one in the league can stop him 1 on 1. Hopefully Kuechly can contribute to a solution where we limit the production.. but the problem will never be "fixed". Let's stop making Brady and his TE's out to be invincible God-like figures. They can be shut down with a very strong pass rush from the front 4 plus LB's that can take away the short-to-intermediate routes. A competent DC like Wannstedt, Mario Williams, Anderson, a healthy KW, a healthy Merriman, a more experienced Sheppard, and a guy like Kuechly would be good enough to effectively limit Brady and Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Let's stop making Brady and his TE's out to be invincible God-like figures. They can be shut down with a very strong pass rush from the front 4 plus LB's that can take away the short-to-intermediate routes. A competent DC like Wannstedt, Mario Williams, Anderson, a healthy KW, a healthy Merriman, a more experienced Sheppard, and a guy like Kuechly would be good enough to effectively limit knock Brady and Co on his ass. Fixed. Edited April 24, 2012 by eball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Let's stop making Brady and his TE's out to be invincible God-like figures. They can be shut down with a very strong pass rush from the front 4 plus LB's that can take away the short-to-intermediate routes. A competent DC like Wannstedt, Mario Williams, Anderson, a healthy KW, a healthy Merriman, a more experienced Sheppard, and a guy like Kuechly would be good enough to effectively limit Brady and Co. Limit him by holding Brady to 300 yds and 2 TDs? All I'm saying is that their offense is going to get theirs.. some posters are making it seem like Kuechly wont be worth drafting unless he can hold Grownkowski without a catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Limit him by holding Brady to 300 yds and 2 TDs? All I'm saying is that their offense is going to get theirs.. some posters are making it seem like Kuechly wont be worth drafting unless he can hold Grownkowski without a catch. Compared to this team's defensive efforts over the past decade, that would be a stellar showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The Clemson gave tape from and should be required viewing for anyone that wants Kuechly. To call him Poz 2.0 is an insult to Poz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The Clemson gave tape from 2010 and 2011 should be required viewing for anyone that wants Kuechly. To call him Poz 2.0 is an insult to Poz... Yeah I thought so too....I called him a more athletic, slightly better version of Chris White and got blasted for it. Oh well, we shall see but too me Kuechly seems like he would have been a 2nd rounder at best in previous draft classes that weren't as thin at LB. To say this is a weak LB class is a big understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yeah I thought so too....I called him a more athletic, slightly better version of Chris White and got blasted for it. Oh well, we shall see but too me Kuechly seems like he would have been a 2nd rounder at best in previous draft classes that weren't as thin at LB. To say this is a weak LB class is a big understatement. I think there's good LB depth throughout the draft but that it's underwhelming at the top. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) I'll be very upset if the Bills take Gilmore/Kirkpatrick in favor of Kuechly or Floyd. SLB and number two WR are just as important for the Bills to address, so why take the lesser talent? The Kuechly and Floyd draft stocks are much more valuable than the Gilmore of Kirkpatrick stocks in my opinion just based on their production in college and their preparedness for the pros. Definately with you there, no way clairborn drops, who would be only cb think is better talent that Keuchly or Floyd IMO. I think there's good LB depth throughout the draft but that it's underwhelming at the top. JMO. Its so rare for ILB to be so good at coverage along with being tackling machine. He isnt perfect prospect cause doesnt pass rush, and isnt greatest at taking on a blockers, but is good at weaving through them, has tremendous range and is a sure tackler. He needs a team with good DT's in front of him to be at his best, and Bills have that. Think he is a great fit for Bills, cause his strengths meet bills need and IMO is the best MLB to come out of college since Urlacher for all around play. Edited April 26, 2012 by rstencel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Definately with you there, no way clairborn drops, who would be only cb think is better talent that Keuchly or Floyd IMO. Its so rare for ILB to be so good at coverage along with being tackling machine. He isnt perfect prospect cause doesnt pass rush, and isnt greatest at taking on a blockers, but is good at weaving through them, has tremendous range and is a sure tackler. He needs a team with good DT's in front of him to be at his best, and Bills have that. Think he is a great fit for Bills, cause his strengths meet bills need and IMO is the best MLB to come out of college since Urlacher for all around play. That is a bold statement. If we get him. I hope you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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