NewEra Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 1334664718[/url]' post='2438521']OK. First, I don't put much stock in the Biletnikoff award. Josh Reed won it, too, in 2001. Second, hot prospects often flame out in the NFL. You asked about his resume. The Billetnikoff award is on his resume. Lots of prospects flame out in the nfl, hot prospects, long time prospects, middle round prospects, can't miss prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 You were the one who asked "how much resume" Johnson had and KOK provided it. Now that the facts don't fit your theory you make a vague, useless statement like "hot prospects flame out." Calvin Johnson didn't. Yes, KOK provided it....but I would like to know what my theory was. All I did was ask a question. You asked about his resume. The Billetnikoff award is on his resume. Lots of prospects flame out in the nfl, hot prospects, long time prospects, middle round prospects, can't miss prospects. I also pointed out that Josh Reed won it. Should I list other winners with stellar NFL careers, such as Bobby Engram (1994), Marcus Harris (1996), Troy Walters (1999), Antonio Bryant (2000), Charles Rogers (2002), Mike Hass (2005), and Golden Tate (2009)? My point that the Biletnikoff is dubious at best as an indicator of success at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 It's still part of his college resume, isn't it? That's what u asked wasn't it? Since you were too lazy to look it up yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQWb4NXvJc&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) 1334709317[/url]' post='2439239']Yes, KOK provided it....but I would like to know what my theory was. All I did was ask a question. I also pointed out that Josh Reed won it. Should I list other winners with stellar NFL careers, such as Bobby Engram (1994), Marcus Harris (1996), Troy Walters (1999), Antonio Bryant (2000), Charles Rogers (2002), Mike Hass (2005), and Golden Tate (2009)? My point that the Biletnikoff is dubious at best as an indicator of success at the NFL level. You pointed out the unsuccessful winners....after you asked about his resume. If he won the heisman, you could talk about 20+ others that sucked in the nfl. If he was 1st team AA, you could talk about the 100 others that sucked. For every college superstar that succeeds in the nfl, there are 200 that don't. So why even bother asking about someone's resume? Edited April 18, 2012 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Sorry, I HATE this mock draft because everyone of these top picks seem to be a reach at the spot you selected them... The first 3 rounds shouldn't be a reach of any kind.. Just my opinion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenToBrown2020 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 well if your going to be bashing people, I will hop in...no need for the comma in that sentence, remove comma and you have a complete sentence. aside from English writing lessons, I like Hill as a project, but definately NOT with the 10 pick Correction: Aside from English writing lessons, I like Hill as a project, but definitelyNOT with the 10 pick. Seriously, unless your grammar, spelling, syntax and composition skills are perfect, do not correct the errors of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 You pointed out the unsuccessful winners....after you asked about his resume. If he won the heisman, you could talk about 20+ others that sucked in the nfl. If he was 1st team AA, you could talk about the 100 others that sucked. For every college superstar that succeeds in the nfl, there are 200 that don't. So why even bother asking about someone's resume? I asked because I did not know of his stats. Also, I will not question the fact that he won the award, but I do question whether or not it s an indicator of potential success in the NFL, or a merely a memorial to a great college career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqj9E6qcK24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 picking Hill at 10 would be something Al Davis would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Not in round 1 THIS IS THE PROBLEM WHEN THREADS GET MERGED! About 5 - 6 pages of this 8 page thread were regarding "How do we get Stephen Hill?" not "He will be the pick at #10". Hill WILL go in the 1st there is no doubt. #10 would be early and it would be based on speculation about his potential as well as his SICK measureables. If we move around in the draft it's possible that we might end up getting him. picking Hill at 10 would be something Al Davis would do Picking Kendall Wright at #10 would be something that Al would do because he is undersized and plays fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 THIS IS THE PROBLEM WHEN THREADS GET MERGED! About 5 - 6 pages of this 8 page thread were regarding "How do we get Stephen Hill?" not "He will be the pick at #10". Hill WILL go in the 1st there is no doubt. #10 would be early and it would be based on speculation about his potential as well as his SICK measureables. If we move around in the draft it's possible that we might end up getting him. Yes! Yes! YES! All WIN! Kill the Mods! Eat the Mods! We are the 99%! Because? Because I want my unrealistic draft scenario in it's own thread! No thread? No Peace! No thread? No Peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'm gonna go smoke 10,000 dollars worth of crack, come back, and still not be able to post a sillier pick at #10. This guy is a 4th round talent as a football player. Damn.....just damn. Buddy Nix would need to smoke that much crack to take Hill at the 10 spot Seriously, the guy is a project mostly because he doesn't know the complete route tree. The kid can block so he would be a plus for a running team that wants to develop him If Hill had been in a top passing offense and put up good numbers he would be a top ten pick. Some team will still take the guy in the mid to late first round simply because his numbers are so good. 6'4'' 4.3 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) It's still part of his college resume, isn't it? That's what u asked wasn't it? Since you were too lazy to look it up yourself? And if I was, so what? It was provided to me, and I consider myself a little more educated about Calvin Johnson. And too lazy? Well, OK, I'll buy off on that, but I thought that was why we can ask questions here in America. How conduct myself is completely up to me, as long as I do not violate the TOS. If you have a problem with that, you are SOL. Edited April 18, 2012 by jjmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Reading comprehension fail? His measurables compare FAVORABLY to Calvin Johnsons. Good lord to people on line know what words all together in a row mean? It's called a sentence. There used to say things. Good lord. They're Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Steven Hawking gets picked at 10 before Stephen Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yes, KOK provided it....but I would like to know what my theory was. All I did was ask a question. I also pointed out that Josh Reed won it. Should I list other winners with stellar NFL careers, such as Bobby Engram (1994), Marcus Harris (1996), Troy Walters (1999), Antonio Bryant (2000), Charles Rogers (2002), Mike Hass (2005), and Golden Tate (2009)? My point that the Biletnikoff is dubious at best as an indicator of success at the NFL level. Woah.. Bobby Engram hate?? he had 650 career receptions and 7700 yds! come on man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 BB Staff members talking about Hill and Floyd. http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Whaley-and-Cook-on-WR-depth-Floyd-and-Hill/45d1470f-67ea-41f7-aa6c-415c2cff5ef5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Woah.. Bobby Engram hate?? he had 650 career receptions and 7700 yds! come on man! My bad....I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 My bad....I stand corrected. Nice of you to say so but you're not completely wrong by any means. Engram put up good numbers which were abetted by a very long career, something like 15 years. I don't believe that he ever made a Pro Bowl so the fact of him winning the Biletnikoff Award remains kind of underwhelming. My bad....I stand corrected. Nice of you to say so but you're not completely wrong by any means. Engram put up good numbers which were abetted by a very long career, something like 15 years. I don't believe that he ever made a Pro Bowl so the fact of him winning the Biletnikoff Award remains kind of underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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