The Cincinnati Kid Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 He said it Oct. 11. Then things changed. There were no true franchise QBs in this draft, IMO and obviously in Nix's also, otherwise he would have picked a QB at 3 and not Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Agree but nothing to lose either. To me it wasn't a big deal. Every team in the league knew we needed a QB. look at who is picking before the bills tonight. don't you think they are shopping the pick to a team in need of a quarterback or linebacker. it would screw the bills over and the pats would accumulate even more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Ralph is an evil genius. Leader of the smoke screen. He is Mr. Burns come to life, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) look at who is picking before the bills tonight. don't you think they are shopping the pick to a team in need of a quarterback or linebacker. it would screw the bills over and the pats would accumulate even more picks. That could happen anyway. It is not a big secret the Bills would like to upgrade at QB but so would many other teams. I respect your opinion but think you are making this much bigger than it is. Edited April 29, 2011 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I think nix just talked him out of it. Dareus was the right pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I don't think anyone listens to what Ralph says anymore, and they shouldn't. He doesn't even know what day it is or where he is anymore, all he knows is how much money he has in this bank accounts. Im supposing it was out of frustration. I will ask this though; Did the Andre Reed tweet force the Vikes to draft Ponder? I think it may've. And if it did, its twice in a row (Jim Kelly/Tebow) that a team reached (IMO) on a QB based on reported interest from the Bills. Did Denver say they drafted Tebow because he went to dinner with Jim Kelly? I missed that. I seriously doubt a team reached for a quarterback because a retired wide receiver living on the west coast tweeted something about his old team on the east coast. Like they said on ESPN this morning, the Vikings got nervous because QBs were coming off the board earlier than expected with Locker going to the Titans and they reached for Ponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You do know that this wasn't a 'secret' before Ralph said anything? It was also a 'remark' not a strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You do know that this wasn't a 'secret' before Ralph said anything? It was also a 'remark' not a strategy if ralph had said nothing most of the league would assume the bills are moving forward with fitzpatrick as the guy after his surprise year. what is fitzp like 29 years old? that's not old. he has at least 5 more good years left, minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 if ralph had said nothing most of the league would assume the bills are moving forward with fitzpatrick as the guy after his surprise year. what is fitzp like 29 years old? that's not old. he has at least 5 more good years left, minimum I guarantee you that Ralph's post-game comments from Oct 11, 2010 had absolutely no effect on last night's draft. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Dont worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I guarantee you that Ralph's post-game comments from Oct 11, 2010 had absolutely no effect on last night's draft. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Dont worry about it. this isn't about last night. it is about tonight and possibly tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) this isn't about last night. it is about tonight and possibly tomorrow Has no effect on the entire draft. there. Anyone who thinks we're in the market for a QB would know it regardless. Water is wet. Edited April 29, 2011 by DrDankenstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 And the greatest TE in NFL history, a beast of an OL with a bruising 2000 yard RB. Trent barely got there with all of that plus one of the nastiest defenses in history... Its is VASTLY more difficult to try and win the SB by building a great D and ignoring your below average QB. Not to mention, to it takes one man to play QB, so you only have to be right about a single player...it takes many good to great players to make a great D making it much more difficult to not only build that D, but to keep it in tact as you build it in this era of free agency. You are absolutely correct about this. A franchise QB elevates the level of your entire team. If, prior to the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers had gone down with a season-ending injury, and had been replaced by a Dilfer-like backup, there's no way that Green Bay even thinks about a Super Bowl win! They'd be lucky to make it to the divisional round of the playoffs in a scenario like that! Once you have a franchise QB, you can basically ignore the QB position in the early rounds of the draft for the next ten+ years. That allows you to focus on building other aspects of your team without significant new draft-day investments at the QB position. During that ten+ year period, that franchise QB will significantly enhance your team's efforts every year; much like Manning does for the Colts or Brees does for the Saints. Imagine two teams trying to win the Super Bowl. Team A contents itself with Dilfer-like QBs, and focuses the next ten years on trying to build a Ravens-like defense, OL, etc. Team B acquires a franchise QB in year one or two of its plan, and focuses the following eight years on building a defense + offensive supporting cast as good as the Packers of 2010, or that of the Patriots teams that won those three Super Bowl rings. It's much, much easier to acquire Packers/Patriots/Saints-level talent at the non-QB positions than it is to build a Ravens of 2000-like defense + OL. The team with the franchise QB is therefore much more likely to succeed in winning the Super Bowl than the team with Dilfer at QB that's attempting to replicate the Ravens' defense of 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Mr. Wilson made his comments to The Associated Press during the Bills bye week, in the midst of the team's dreadful 0-8 start, when it was clearly evident at the time the team was in need of a franchise quarterback. Expectations and needs however changed, given how Fitzpatrick proved better than serviceable down the stretch and provided the offense a semblance of cohesion while also earning Gailey's respect for understanding the system. That didn't mean the Bills stopped looking for a franchise guy. And that was apparent when they seriously entertained the possibility of drafting Cam Newton if he was there at No. 3. There was also much consideration put into selecting Blaine Gabbert if both Newton and Dareus were taken with the first two picks. The Bills, however, went with Dareus, because they felt he has the best potential to be "a franchise" player. And for those who have criticized Mr. Wilson for being meddlesome, this is a clear example in which he let the people he hired make that decision. Did Mr. Wilson have input? Sure. Dareus, however, was a consensus choice, from what I understand. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Mr. Wilson made his comments to The Associated Press during the Bills bye week, in the midst of the team's dreadful 0-8 start, when it was clearly evident at the time the team was in need of a franchise quarterback. Expectations and needs however changed, given how Fitzpatrick proved better than serviceable down the stretch and provided the offense a semblance of cohesion while also earning Gailey's respect for understanding the system. That didn't mean the Bills stopped looking for a franchise guy. And that was apparent when they seriously entertained the possibility of drafting Cam Newton if he was there at No. 3. There was also much consideration put into selecting Blaine Gabbert if both Newton and Dareus were taken with the first two picks. The Bills, however, went with Dareus, because they felt he has the best potential to be "a franchise" player. And for those who have criticized Mr. Wilson for being meddlesome, this is a clear example in which he let the people he hired make that decision. Did Mr. Wilson have input? Sure. Dareus, however, was a consensus choice, from what I understand. jw Good stuff John. Where are you enjoying the draft from? The Ralph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Good stuff John. Where are you enjoying the draft from? The Ralph? in the bills media room, awaiting next pick. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 in the bills media room, awaiting next pick. jw Hope they're feeding you guys some good grub. Who you hanging with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg793 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 mallett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Hope they're feeding you guys some good grub. Who you hanging with? food's good. most of the regular gang's here. jw mallett don't see him being a Chan guy. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 food's good. most of the regular gang's here. jw don't see him being a Chan guy. jw Sounds great, John. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 don't see him being a Chan guy. jw Not a Chan guy, not a Belichick guy, not a Rex guy...and so on for all 32 teams. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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