agardin Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) How is Gabbert the white jamarcus russel? I think that sounds more like Mallet. Mallet has the biggest arm in the draft although Gabbert isn't far behind but its Mallet who tries to throw the ball as hard as he can on every throw....that sounds like Jamarcus. Also Mallet is just as big as Jamarcus and just as slow while Gabbert can make plays with his feet and will run somewhere in the 4.5 range at the combine. Not to mention the thing that made Jamarcus Russell the player he was was the fact he had the intelligence of bag of rocks and the motivation of stoner. I've def changed my mind after this year but....Luck is by far the best QB in this draft but Blaine Gabbert is the clear cut number 2. Newton is a project, Mallet is Drew Bledsoe v2.0 and Locker is just garbage. [/quote Interesting that you mentioned Bledsoe. I am not saying Mallett at 3 but if he turned out to have career like Bledsoe would that be a bad thing. Number 3 dr aft picks come with some pretty high expectations. I threw Jimbo's numbers as a point of comparison, I would take Kelly over Bledsoe any day but the number are fairly similar. New England Patriots (19932001) Buffalo Bills (20022004) Dallas Cowboys (20052006) Career highlights and awards 4× Pro Bowl selection (1994, 1996, 1997, 2002) Super Bowl champion (XXXVI) Second-team All-America (1992) 1992 Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year Other Accomplishments Career NFL statistics as of 2006 TD-INT 251-206 Yards 44,611 QB Rating 77.1 College: University of Miami NFL Draft: 1983 / Round: 1 / Pick: 14 Debuted in 1986 for the Buffalo Bills Last played in 1996 for the Buffalo Bills Career history Houston Gamblers (USFL) (1984-1985) Buffalo Bills (1986-1996) Career highlights and awards 4× Pro Bowl selection (1987, 1990, 1991, 1992) 1× First-team All-Pro selection (1991) 2× Second-team All-Pro selection (1990, 1992) 2× USFL All-League Team (1984, 1985) 1984 USFL MVP 1984 USFL Rookie of the Year 1985 USFL Most Outstanding Quarterback USFL All-Time Team Bills Career Passing Yards Leader with 35,467 Buffalo Bills #12 Retired 84.4% QB Rating Edited January 6, 2011 by agardin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 How is Gabbert the white jamarcus russel? I think that sounds more like Mallet. Mallet has the biggest arm in the draft although Gabbert isn't far behind but its Mallet who tries to throw the ball as hard as he can on every throw....that sounds like Jamarcus. Also Mallet is just as big as Jamarcus and just as slow while Gabbert can make plays with his feet and will run somewhere in the 4.5 range at the combine. Not to mention the thing that made Jamarcus Russell the player he was was the fact he had the intelligence of bag of rocks and the motivation of stoner. I've def changed my mind after this year but....Luck is by far the best QB in this draft but Blaine Gabbert is the clear cut number 2. Newton is a project, Mallet is Drew Bledsoe v2.0 and Locker is just garbage. Is Mallet Jamarcus 2.0 or Bledsoe 2.0? Big effing difference. Honestly, Bledsoe in his prime was not a bad quarterback. Not a great one, but a good one. I've not seen Gabbert enough, but is there no Mizzou homerism in this one? I mean that you've probably seen him and rooted for him too much to hold an objective opinion - not that he is not good, per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 If Nix can score some decent FA talent for D then I don't have a problem with a QB in the 2nd-3rd round. But we HAVE TO improve on defense now. PTR +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Gabbert is all hype. Gimme Enderle in the 3r or 4th, or Stanzi in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Doesn't it give eveyone pause to see that Locker is now being talked about as not even a tird round pick. he would have been in the discussion as first overall with Bradford had he come out last year. Brohm may have gone first overall and fell to the second round and probably out of the NFL. Is it hard to believe that Luck may be well lucky to be in a good system at Stanford against weak Pac10 defenses? I know everyone thinks the Bills need to take a shot at getting the franchise QB. But... KC made the playoffs drafting defense and by signing a FA QB who didn't even play in college. The Jets are SB contenders with arguably the second worst QB in the playoffs. I hope Denver passes on Peterson, we trade out of 3 to some team that wants him, pick up an extra second, and then go DE, LB, DT, followed by Locker in the top of the third round. Follow that up with a Center, one or two TE's(no slow white duses from the Big 12 please), and a couple more LB's. Of course who knows maybe the Bills make a big splash in early off-season...Maybe they switch back to the 4-3 and trade for Haynesworth(a huge chunk of his crazy salary has already been paid by the Redskins) to rotate with Williams and Troup. Carrington and Edwards can play DE along with a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Doesn't it give eveyone pause to see that Locker is now being talked about as not even a tird round pick. he would have been in the discussion as first overall with Bradford had he come out last year. Brohm may have gone first overall and fell to the second round and probably out of the NFL. Is it hard to believe that Luck may be well lucky to be in a good system at Stanford against weak Pac10 defenses? I know everyone thinks the Bills need to take a shot at getting the franchise QB. But... KC made the playoffs drafting defense and by signing a FA QB who didn't even play in college. The Jets are SB contenders with arguably the second worst QB in the playoffs. I hope Denver passes on Peterson, we trade out of 3 to some team that wants him, pick up an extra second, and then go DE, LB, DT, followed by Locker in the top of the third round. Follow that up with a Center, one or two TE's(no slow white duses from the Big 12 please), and a couple more LB's. Of course who knows maybe the Bills make a big splash in early off-season...Maybe they switch back to the 4-3 and trade for Haynesworth(a huge chunk of his crazy salary has already been paid by the Redskins) to rotate with Williams and Troup. Carrington and Edwards can play DE along with a rookie. the truth is. Locker was talked about by non football people as a 1st overall. Football people gave him a 3rd round grade. He went back to school to improve his draft status, he failed at that. Why would the Bills want a player that decides to play for a portion of the game? You can keep Haynesworth. Edited January 6, 2011 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I agree, would love to get Gabbert in the second round. Check out these highlights. youtube.com/watch?v=XW69HWngSdk that is a brilliant release. the guy would have to learn a bunch, but i really like that throwing motion. better than mallet by plenty. no way that guy lasts to the 2nd round. looks a bit rivers-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I just don't see any desirable QBs being around when we use our second pick. Too many teams need QBs. Not saying we need to draft one with the third pick overall, but I would like to see us draft the best defensive player and then trade up in the first to grab one of the 2nd tier QBs (Newton or Gabbert would be best case in that scenario). Let Fitz play and continue to play unless he gives Gailey a reason to start our new QB. 4 QBs gone in the first 10 pics This mock draft hear is far more likely to happen than what other people believe. The simple situation is that so many team need a QB, lots of teams will reach. When people respond to me by saying no one will want to trade into the #3 spot to get a QB, I say you're crazy. Half the teams picking in the top 12 need a QB, including ourself. However, are QB is servicable and we have so many other hole that if we skipped the position and taded out to gather pick, it makes sense. Teams will get depserate draft day for QB, the Bills are in a great position to move this pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I can live with this - I'm on board with Fairley, but it MUST be defense. I don't know if I'd go with Locker that early, but it's possible they may have to. There seem to be enough QBs out there that the Bills may feel the need to get one while they can. That said, I'd rather live with Fitz for another year and go heavy on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Is Mallet Jamarcus 2.0 or Bledsoe 2.0? Big effing difference. Honestly, Bledsoe in his prime was not a bad quarterback. Not a great one, but a good one. I've not seen Gabbert enough, but is there no Mizzou homerism in this one? I mean that you've probably seen him and rooted for him too much to hold an objective opinion - not that he is not good, per se. I don't think Mallet is Jamarcus Russel, i don't think any of these QBs are I was just saying if you are going to compare anybody to him it would be Mallet and that's really only from a physical standpoint. Oh and I fully admit that their is homerism, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a good prospect and the second best one IMO. And Bledsoe wasn't a bad QB but I don't want to draft a QB at #3 who is going to turn out to be mediocre. In fact I don't even want to draft Gabbert or any QB, I want Nick Fairley! I was just saying that after Luck, I think he is the second best option at QB. Edited January 6, 2011 by Stl Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistingBot Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I don't think Mallet is Jamarcus Russel, i don't think any of these QBs are I was just saying if you are going to compare anybody to him it would be Mallet and that's really only from a physical standpoint. Oh and I fully admit that their is homerism, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a good prospect and the second best one IMO. And Bledsoe wasn't a bad QB but I don't want to draft a QB at #3 who is going to turn out to be mediocre. In fact I don't even want to draft Gabbert or any QB, I want Nick Fairley! I was just saying that after Luck, I think he is the second best option at QB. IMHO, I think people on this board who aren't familiar with him will see just how dominant Fairley is when Auburn plays Oregon in the national championship game. He's this year's version of Suh - disruptive and unblockable with just a single lineman. That said, I get the feeling that he might not get past Denver at pick #2 (they can't stop the run at all and need a d-lineman). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 We get a stud on D and our QB of the future. Link http://bleacherreport.com/articles/562759-2011-nfl-mock-draft-complete-1st-and-2nd-round-pick-predictions#page/4 I like the first, but if we take a QB in the second, I would like to see the kid from Neveda - more athletic and bigger arm than Locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 that is a brilliant release. the guy would have to learn a bunch, but i really like that throwing motion. better than mallet by plenty. no way that guy lasts to the 2nd round. looks a bit rivers-esque. Brillilant release - agreed. My concern is that he seems to be playing exclusively in a spread. Will take a lot of work to develop him into a QB who can take the snap under center. It's not an easy transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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