Thoner7 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 This guy is not the first rounder idiot McShay claims he is. Please just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 i will pretend this post doesnt exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I love how even when a QB sucks we rationalize that the kid is still worth our #1 pick overall. Infatuations die hard. Here's a bold concept: if there are no obvious QB's to pick...don't pick one. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I love how even when a QB sucks we rationalize that the kid is still worth our #1 pick overall. Infatuations die hard. Here's a bold concept: if there are no obvious QB's to pick...don't pick one. PTR No QB is going to be a helpful choice for team building with our #1 pick as: 1. Our OL and nascent Gailey offense needs a QB with some NFL experience to read the pro defenses and games we are likely to face next year. Any rookie is going to need to spend their time learning to become a vet without this development being complicated by us needing a vet QB merely to operate adequately. Having a rookie as our QB almost without regard to their talent level will be a step back for this O to an Edwards level of production by this O. 2. Not only will a rookie be a step back for this O but also it will be a horrible situation for developing this rookie. In order to not get killed next year the QB will not only need to be able to do vet level reads but also have a vet level quick release. Even the quickest releases in the pros were simply not as this level of speed as a rookie. 3. The local media (which will be happy to make their nickels savaging a new QB brought in with high expectations) and a small but vocal part of the fan base desperately looking for immediate production from their new savior will not give a new QB the time to develop and learn from making mistakes to become a quality vet. It might make sense to try to get a late round QB who will not have expectations of immediate production and also will not devastate our salary cap when he proves to be mortal. However, as small as the chances of finding a Tom Brady are they actually are better than the chances of getting immediate production out of a 1st round QB choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) Alright Ive been watching Locker, Luck, Mallett, and at first I was all on the Luck bandwagon. After watching locker get wrecked by Nebraska I turned him off but still have been watching him these past couple of weeks. Lets face it Luck isnt coming out, our team isnt going anywhere for atleast 2 years. Locker is our future. His o line sucks and look at the way he steps up in the pocket, How his playaction is so effective because not only can he throw, but he has a sub 4.40 40. We take locker, develop a year under fitz and really show that this franchise can be something. If we get Mallett we will have a solid qb for a decade. If we get locker we could have a hall of famer who CAN play in cold weather. Especially after looking at how hes tearing up an excellent oregon state secondary. Hall of Famer? LOL! Will he be inducted the same year as JP Losman's beard or Trent Edwards' hair? Edited October 17, 2010 by Wilson from Gamehendge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Oh great another "The Bills OL sucks" post...... The Bills OL as a whole do NOT SUCK - LT is set - We have several candidates for C - We also have several players capable of playing guard - WE NEED A RIGHT TACKLE That does NOT mean that this OL sucks.....I wish people would stop saying this The Bills OL sucks. This guy is not the first rounder idiot McShay claims he is. Please just stop. Remind me. Didn't McShay have a football woody for Aaron Maybin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Based on what? He can run for his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 This guy is not the first rounder idiot McShay claims he is. Please just stop. McShay also said Clausen won't be drafted in the first round. He wasn't and he looks terrible so far. And of any of the top QBs in the draft the past 5 years or so, not one has played with a weaker supporting cast than Locker. If Luck comes out, he's the #1 pick without a doubt. But Locker has all the ability and toughness to become a very good QB if he lands in a decent situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Guys the senator won't be happy till we take some crap QB from Tech, so ignore him I didn't realize Mallet played for Tech - when did he transfer? He can run for his life. That he can do, and very well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 (edited) Locker > Mallet but the sum of both does not equal Luck, and since he isn't coming out, the next 7 months will be a time when everyone (hopefully not our FO) tries to talk themselves into which one is worthy of a top pick. I miss the good old days of clear-cut #1s like Manning and Leaf... Also, if the Arkansas game showed anything about Mallet, is was he's probably the QB rated near the top that is most reliant upon the system he's in. His back-up (Wilson, I believe) was absolutely lights out in relief of him. I've bought in to the "scouting thing" regarding trying to watch Mallet, Luck, Locker as much as possible, and this was the best game an Arkansas QB played this year. Edited October 18, 2010 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan da Man Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Locker > Mallet but the sum of both does not equal Luck, and since he isn't coming out, the next 7 months will be a time when everyone (hopefully not our FO) tries to talk themselves into which one is worthy of a top pick. I miss the good old days of clear-cut #1s like Manning and Leaf... Also, if the Arkansas game showed anything about Mallet, is was he's probably the QB rated near the top that is most reliant upon the system he's in. His back-up (Wilson, I believe) was absolutely lights out in relief of him. I've bought in to the "scouting thing" regarding trying to watch Mallet, Luck, Locker as much as possible, and this was the best game an Arkansas QB played this year. Great point. Mallet's back-up did have an excellent game. Not sure if that's exposing Mallet or just showing the depth on their roster.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradamus Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Great point. Mallet's back-up did have an excellent game. Not sure if that's exposing Mallet or just showing the depth on their roster.... Very difficult to say... one thing that it exposed to me was Mallett's lack of precision in the short passing game. The kid Wilson was putting balls right on the money and their receivers, particularly Childs, was catching the ball in stride and just shredding the Auburn secondary. Mallett definitely has some problems with touch passes and timing. There are times when a receiver will turn around at the same time Mallett's pass is going 80 mph through his hands or over his head. That being said, Mallett still intrigues me. He has an absolute cannon, and can make all the passes. Unlike Losman, who threw an excellent bomb and not much else, Mallett is capable of throwing every type of NFL throw on a rope, including deep outs and post routes in between defenders. I can't remember the last NFL quarterback that had the same kind of golden arm that Mallett possesses. (Maybe Cutler?) Mallett seems to have improved every season, and is a lock to throw for 300 yards in every game that he starts and finishes at the college level. It is worth remembering that even Manning initially struggled at the short passing game coming out of school, but through coaching, extreme dedication, and high football IQ, he has since perfected that aspect of his game. It's highly unlikely Mallet will make those kind of strides, but the short passing game is something that can be coached up at the NFL level. With the thinking that Mallet can improve his all around accuracy, I think he is a legitimate 1st overall prospect and potential franchise QB. That's not to say I think the Bills should draft him at no.1... I'm still not sure. But his skill set should make him worthy of consideration at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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