ohiotim Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Watching the OSU/Indiana game, impressed by OSU DE Cameron Heyward. Kid is 6-5, about 290, and is a legit pass rusher. Starting reading scouting reports on him, all have him best suited to play DE in a 3-4. Looks like he's a Top 10, if not Top 5, pick in the next draft. If (big if) Fitz holds it together for the remainder of the season, anyone see a scenario where we draft Heyward (or possibly a different defensive stud, preferably a pass rushing DE or OLB) instead of a QB, and then either draft a QB in Rd 2 or 3 to sit behind Fitz for a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Drafting a QB next year would be a wasted pick in the first round. I'd pick a DL or OL player in the first 7 rounds. Build the lines and watch every one else start to look good all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Drafting a QB next year would be a wasted pick in the first round. I'd pick a DL or OL player in the first 7 rounds. Build the lines and watch every one else start to look good all of a sudden. Let's see how the QB situation develops... Yours is not a popular viewpoint on this board I tend towards it myself, though. The only thing I can't decide is if we need OL or DL more urgently. I'm leaning towards DL. Yet...WTF? with Kelsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjnklaudia Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Drafting a QB next year would be a wasted pick in the first round. I'd pick a DL or OL player in the first 7 rounds. Build the lines and watch every one else start to look good all of a sudden. What he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Take Ironhead's kid. Sounds legit. The Bills cannot pass on a great footbal player....unless he's a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 The last time we took a QB in the first round his name was Jim Kelly. That worked out pretty good. You don't get a chance to take QB's in the top 3 very often. Unless we sign a QB worthy of note in FA we must take one with our first pick. We will then most likely have the 33 pick also for all the other holes on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 The last time we took a QB in the first round his name was Jim Kelly. That worked out pretty good. You don't get a chance to take QB's in the top 3 very often. Unless we sign a QB worthy of note in FA we must take one with our first pick. We will then most likely have the 33 pick also for all the other holes on this team. Comeon JP wasn't drafted that long ago to forget was he, i realize you might want to but he was out last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Watching the OSU/Indiana game, impressed by OSU DE Cameron Heyward. Kid is 6-5, about 290, and is a legit pass rusher. Starting reading scouting reports on him, all have him best suited to play DE in a 3-4. Looks like he's a Top 10, if not Top 5, pick in the next draft. If (big if) Fitz holds it together for the remainder of the season, anyone see a scenario where we draft Heyward (or possibly a different defensive stud, preferably a pass rushing DE or OLB) instead of a QB, and then either draft a QB in Rd 2 or 3 to sit behind Fitz for a year? He is good , I wasthinking new england might grab him with the raiders first , two more guys to keep an eye on as top 10 defensive front 7 guys are adrian clayborn De Iowa he seems to have the abilty to get the the qb a little better then heyward and Bruce carter Olb who can have great speed off the edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 DraftTek has him 14th best player on our Big Board, http://www.drafttek.com/2011players.asp behind d-linemen Clayborn, Paea, and Dareus. I'd see him as a possible 2nd first rounder if the Bills take QB or OT with their first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 The last time we took a QB in the first round his name was Jim Kelly. That worked out pretty good. JP Losman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 DraftTek has him 14th best player on our Big Board, http://www.drafttek....2011players.asp behind d-linemen Clayborn, Paea, and Dareus. I'd see him as a possible 2nd first rounder if the Bills take QB or OT with their first pick. hey astrobot where do they have bruce carter fron North carolina. He seems to be the kind of outside linebacker we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 hey astrobot where do they have bruce carter fron North carolina. He seems to be the kind of outside linebacker we need. 19th. Love the guy. I hope we parlay our picks in some way to get Carter and a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 19th. Love the guy. I hope we parlay our picks in some way to get Carter and a QB. moving from 33-36 to 19 is not unreasonable. rookie cap/pay scale might change that but most years you can find someone looking to get out of round one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 moving from 33-36 to 19 is not unreasonable. rookie cap/pay scale might change that but most years you can find someone looking to get out of round one I'd agree. The next OLB34 guy I like is Jabaal Sheard, but he's #120 on our Board, so maybe 3rd round for him. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if our pick is a OLB in RD#1--it's not a good draft for OLB yet. Way too early to know for sure due to juniors declaring, progress on the CBA, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I say if you think a QB is special you get him but you don't force it like the Losman pick ( ie the guy we wanted is off the board who's next at that position)otherwise I'm looking for OL, OLBs, DEs, NTs, WRs, TE's in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I say if you think a QB is special you get him but you don't force it like the Losman pick ( ie the guy we wanted is off the board who's next at that position)otherwise I'm looking for OL, OLBs, DEs, NTs, WRs, TE's in that order. Can't disagee with that Lets hope bell comes on here and we can move on to other needs. fingers crossed on him . Thay have played some of the best d'e this year. Sunday will be interesting to see how we stack up against a team that does not have an elite unit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 If one of the QB's grades out as a superstar, gotta take him assuming we have the top pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Watching the OSU/Indiana game, impressed by OSU DE Cameron Heyward. Kid is 6-5, about 290, and is a legit pass rusher. Starting reading scouting reports on him, all have him best suited to play DE in a 3-4. Looks like he's a Top 10, if not Top 5, pick in the next draft. If (big if) Fitz holds it together for the remainder of the season, anyone see a scenario where we draft Heyward (or possibly a different defensive stud, preferably a pass rushing DE or OLB) instead of a QB, and then either draft a QB in Rd 2 or 3 to sit behind Fitz for a year? I think it's pretty rare to draft 3-4 DE's high; those guys typically just have to play strong, eat up linemen, and let the LB's get to the QB. I haven't see Heyward, but if he's as good as you say, wouldn't be surprised if he plays DE in a 4-3 scheme somewhere to give him more opportunities to get to the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 JP Losman My bad. How could I forget about JP, but he was a reach and wasn't he a late round 1st round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightinIrishBills Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 The last time we took a QB in the first round his name was Jim Kelly. That worked out pretty good. You don't get a chance to take QB's in the top 3 very often. Unless we sign a QB worthy of note in FA we must take one with our first pick. We will then most likely have the 33 pick also for all the other holes on this team. Ha, I was going to remind you of the prolific Jonathan Paul, but I see you caught yourself. I'm only in favor of drafting a QB if his name is Luck or Mallett. Otherwise, build up that DLine however it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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