BuffaloBaumer Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 IMO - this team is a 3 year project. Year 1 - bottom out. Year 2 - pick up starter-worthy QB and fortify the lines, offense and defense. Year 3 - tactical draft, FA pick ups to fill in the missing pieces and then compete for the division and playoffs. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Fine with me. Keep on ignoring that Oline and see how far you get...I still think Wilson had more say in that Spiller pick than people think.. agree with all of your points, especially your suspicion of the extent of wilson's meddling but...why keep feeding him your money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 The fans don't deserve this and the players don't deserve this. Upper management (which obviously included the owner) deserves everything the media is dishing out right now. I place no responsibility on the players anymore because for the past few years, they are the ones who have been put in a position to fail. Is it Edwards fault he was never good? Is it Maybin's fault he was drafted when he was? Is it Whitner's fault he should have never been picked there? Go right down the line (including the coaches) and you just see such a void of talent and lack of football knowledge across the board. I never got mad after the first two games this year knowing they would be pretty bad and now I am going to enjoy the abuse ownership will get for the remainder of the season. Sound harsh..tough luck. My money is being spent on crap and although I will continue to attend,I will sit back and watch this organization get blasted for the remainder of the season. They are the ones who deserve the abuse after trying to barely get by with the talent they put out there. Ownership won't feel any abuse so long as it's coming from people who forked over the $400 to get their family in the seats on Sunday. ChaCHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 it's been said many times, nothing will change while Ralph remains the owner...but the catch most fear is that, when he ceases to own the team, there is a good chance it will be gone...so you are forced in a way to support a crappy product. Let's face it, as long as Ralph is around, no respecting coach or front office man will want the gig in upstate NY - you can't build a winner. Ralph Wilson is the root of the problem. Period. He is responsible for hiring capable people and he hasn't done it. I agree with a previous poster who said you can't lay blame on a bust like Maybin because it was not his fault he was drafted so high. The clowns who draft bad players are to blame and ultimately they were all hired directly or indirectly by Ralph Wilson. Ralph Wilson has been a failure and his organization and team reflect his failure. There is little or no doubt in my mind that the Bills will never again taste success until the Bills have a new owner. It is futile to blame untalented players for their lack of ability because the owner and managers blundered in hiring and selecting mediocre talent. The cycle of hiring mediocrity for a 3 year cycle and then repeating it over and over again is all Wilson's fault. Fans are missing the point if they think that drafting a franchise QB will solve the problem. The problems run way deeper than who is the next QB. In fact, it won't matter who is the next QB until the ownership changes because the mediocre coaching that this owner continually hires will spoil and waste any new talent that is acquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 agree with all of your points, especially your suspicion of the extent of wilson's meddling but...why keep feeding him your money? Because the tailgating tradition with father and friends has lasted over 30 years and I can't break that cycle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Fine with me. Keep on ignoring that Oline and see how far you get...I still think Wilson had more say in that Spiller pick than people think.. That's impossible to believe. That had Nix and Chan all over it. Has anyone seen or heard from Ralph in the past month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsadale Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I have to agree with you that we just don't have a very talented team. I will always be a Bills fan, but this is the first time in a very long time that I have actually thought about us losing every game just to guarantee us a shot at a franchise quarterback. I would not be the least bit upset if we didn't win a game this year. Luck, Locker, or Mallett are ALL qb's who I feel would give us the franchise qb we're all craving. But until we address the tackle positions, and find a tight end that actually knows how to get open and catch a ball, our offense will continue to stink it up. Mallett, Luck, Locker = Klingler, Carr, Plummer (at Arizona) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Agreed, but anyone who thinks this was fixable in one year is a ticket-taker on the retard rollercoaster. Fixable in one year? Are you really that dumb? THEY HAVE MADE THE SITUATION WORSE. They aren't fixing anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 That's impossible to believe. That had Nix and Chan all over it. Has anyone seen or heard from Ralph in the past month? Strange have not heard from Ralph in a while now. Makes you wonder? He maybe suffering from some dimentia by now. Agree Modrek and Ralph are the problem no one else. I can't understand why Modrek is still here? I want Nix, Whaley, and Gailey in full control with a full check book and let them build this damn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Tom Modrak runs the draft. Wilson owns the team. Nothing will change until those two components change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Tom Modrak runs the draft. Wilson owns the team. Nothing will change until those two components change. It's amazing that Modrak has survived as long as he has. He's worked under four GM's now, and received a promotion to VP after TD was fired. John Guy made it through 3 GM's, and was unceremoniously dumped late one January night as a bone to fans who knew his name and that Buffal'o's UFA had stunk. He's wasn't good, but wasn't the only one who should have been fired. The ironic thing amid all the GM's since 2006 is that none of them fired the college scouting and pro personnel directors. Normally, new GM's bring in their own people to fill those roles but I'm not sure even the GM can fire anyone without RW's permission. How else can anyone explain why Jim Overdorf hasn't been canned? Or why the owner re-signed and subsequently fired the coach. That's a GM's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 It's amazing that Modrak has survived as long as he has. He's worked under four GM's now, and received a promotion to VP after TD was fired. John Guy made it through 3 GM's, and was unceremoniously dumped late one January night as a bone to fans who knew his name and that Buffal'o's UFA had stunk. He's wasn't good, but wasn't the only one who should have been fired. The ironic thing amid all the GM's since 2006 is that none of them fired the college scouting and pro personnel directors. Normally, new GM's bring in their own people to fill those roles but I'm not sure even the GM can fire anyone without RW's permission. How else can anyone explain why Jim Overdorf hasn't been canned? Or why the owner re-signed and subsequently fired the coach. That's a GM's job. I can't understand it either, other than I've read he is very close to Mr Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 you wait all year for the season to start and to give it all up now, seems like an exercise in futility. it has actually been a decade of utter futility. the blame rests on ralph and the detroit "circle" who advise him . we are the innocent "victims"because the bills are our passion, our reality. the franchise since the "illegal forward pass" has been a total clusterf-k. i agree, all the blame is on ralph. he just gets bad advice, or is just too set in his ways, as he and his minions count the money. hey pal, i hated to see it, but that home run throwback play was barely but absolutely legal, and an awesome, gutsy play executed to perfection. no sour grapes on that one, please.. look at the tape. Also, if the bills are your 'reality' and your passion, time to get on with life my friend. Ralph should have moved this team a long time ago, so the fans of WNY are hardly "victims". be glad a 3rd rate town like the b lo has become even has a big league team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 I can't understand it either, other than I've read he is very close to Mr Wilson. Modrak can't be too close to Ralph since he lives in Florida full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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