Dr. Trooth Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Schouman is tendered at $1.68M and 2nd round compensation. WTF? What has he done to deserve that consideration? Obviously he's highly thought of to do that But, not only has he demonstrated that he's as brittle as ribbon candy...at least playing inside. At 6'2" and 223 lbs., no way he can physically survive at TE in this league. No freakin way. He's got to be the lightest TE in the league. Surely the Bills don't believe he's a TE, do they? Do they have plans to move him outside to WR, perhaps. Based on Nix and Gailey's comments on their size preferences at wr, Schouman would fit their model. If he has enough speed and quickness to move outside, he'd be a formidable blocking wr and maybe even a good possession type wr. What other explanation could there be than he's moving outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 He's a good rebounder in the pickup basketball games though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I don't get it either. Robert Royal was more productive than Schouman which is all one needs to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Schouman is tendered at $1.68M and 2nd round compensation. WTF? What has he done to deserve that consideration? Obviously he's highly thought of to do that Bt, not only has he demonstrated that he's as brittle as ribbon candy...at least playing inside. At 6'2" and 223 lbs., no way he can physically survive at TE in this league. No freakin way. He's got to be the lightest TE in the league. Surely the Bills don't believe he's a TE, do they? Do they have plans to move him outside to WR, perhaps. Based on Nix and Gailey's comments on their size preferences at wr, Schouman would fit their model. If he has enough speed and quickness to move outside, he'd be a formidable blocking wr and maybe even a good possession type wr. What other explanation could there be than he's moving outside? Shouman was quickly becoming TE's favorite target, between Shouman and Nelson the TE position will go from one of our weaknesses to one of our strengths, especially when playing a more smash mouth type football. The TE position in Buffalo has been a weakness for way to long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Shouman was quickly becoming TE's favorite target, between Shouman and Nelson the TE position will go from one of our weaknesses to one of our strengths, especially when playing a more smash mouth type football. The TE position in Buffalo has been a weakness for way to long. The bolded part is certainly true, fantasies that it has been well-addressed notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Shouman was quickly becoming TE's favorite target, between Shouman and Nelson the TE position will go from one of our weaknesses to one of our strengths, especially when playing a more smash mouth type football.The TE position in Buffalo has been a weakness for way to long. It's kind of tough to play smash mouth football when neither of your tight ends can block anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 The bolded part is certainly true, fantasies that it has been well-addressed notwithstanding. Shaun Nelson has a huge upside and we haven't even scratched the surface yet in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 It's kind of tough to play smash mouth football when neither of your tight ends can block anybody. We need TE's that not only block, but require extra attention because of their receiving skills. Shaun Nelson required extra attention from opposing defenses throughout college and still produced very good numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Shaun Nelson has a huge upside and we haven't even scratched the surface yet in my opinion. You are exactly right, and I thought he showed signs of being a very good blocker. I think Nelson's going to be a nice receiving tight end and a good enough blocker to stay on the field during running plays. The notion Nelson can't block anybody is simply not true, go watch the games again. The guys that are complaining about our pass catching tight ends are the same ones complaining when we had just run blocking tight ends. They can't be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Schouman was off to a pretty good start last year before getting injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatpantsjoe Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 The whole offense went to **** after shouman got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 Shouman was quickly becoming TE's favorite target, between Shouman and Nelson the TE position will go from one of our weaknesses to one of our strengths, especially when playing a more smash mouth type football. But... at 223 lbs. Schouman won't be a TE for more than 3 games before he's done.... he can't play TE in this league at that weight... period... and he's already proven that. Adding 10 to 15 lbs. to his frame won't get it done either. Thus... my initial question, do the Bills plan to move him outside? Would he still be TE's favorite targets on the outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I don't get it either. Robert Royal was more productive than Schouman which is all one needs to know. He was young, learning the position, and wasn't ready. Royal was let go b/c they believed Schouman was better and ready to take the reigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I wasn't a huge Schoman fan before the season, but he had 9 catches in the first 2 games of the year. http://www.nfl.com/players/derekschouman/p...le?id=SCH487485 And while he isn't a great blocker, he is more than willing. He definitely has a role on this team as a backup TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 But... at 223 lbs. Schouman won't be a TE for more than 3 games before he's done.... he can't play TE in this league at that weight... period... and he's already proven that. Adding 10 to 15 lbs. to his frame won't get it done either. Thus... my initial question, do the Bills plan to move him outside? Would he still be TE's favorite targets on the outside? He played in every game the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I don't get it either. Robert Royal was more productive than Schouman which is all one needs to know. Come on, you're smarter than that, right? Are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastRochBillsfan Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Schouman was off to a pretty good start last year before getting injured I agree. But... at 223 lbs. Schouman won't be a TE for more than 3 games before he's done.... he can't play TE in this league at that weight... period... and he's already proven that. Adding 10 to 15 lbs. to his frame won't get it done either. Thus... my initial question, do the Bills plan to move him outside? Would he still be TE's favorite targets on the outside? why beacause he got hurt? and a 250 lb te cant get hurt? if weight, or lack there of, is your logic for this assumption, I think you need to come up with something better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Shaun Nelson has a huge upside and we haven't even scratched the surface yet in my opinion. What is lost on some fans here is that practically every team has a Shaun Nelson or two. A TE who seems to have measurables and/or college production that is promising. Very few of them pan out because an every down TE may have the most physically demanding job on the field. The second tier of free agency is usually well stocked with once great TE prospects like Ben Troupe who flamed out in Tennessee. The Bills usually don't have ANY TE's with significant potential on their roster, so it's just assumed that Nelson is a cinch to do well. However, he did not hold up physically as a rookie, and when he was in there his production was by no means extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordByrd Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I don't get it either. Robert Royal was more productive than Schouman which is all one needs to know. Don't ever bring that name up unless you're talking about the worst TE ever. Just... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Schouman is tendered at $1.68M and 2nd round compensation. WTF? What has he done to deserve that consideration? Obviously he's highly thought of to do that But, not only has he demonstrated that he's as brittle as ribbon candy...at least playing inside. At 6'2" and 223 lbs., no way he can physically survive at TE in this league. No freakin way. He's got to be the lightest TE in the league. Surely the Bills don't believe he's a TE, do they? Do they have plans to move him outside to WR, perhaps. Based on Nix and Gailey's comments on their size preferences at wr, Schouman would fit their model. If he has enough speed and quickness to move outside, he'd be a formidable blocking wr and maybe even a good possession type wr. What other explanation could there be than he's moving outside? Schouman does not have the speed nor the skillset to play WR. The next lowest tender is original round, which for Schouman would be a 7th round pick. For someone who is going into the season as the Bills most experience TE the slight difference in salary is likely worth the guarantee that he would not receive an offer sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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