Magox Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Happy http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/science/...ychedelics.html As a retired clinical psychologist, Clark Martin was well acquainted with traditional treatments for depression, but his own case seemed untreatable as he struggled through chemotherapy and other grueling regimens for kidney cancer. Counseling seemed futile to him. So did the antidepressant pills he tried. Nothing had any lasting effect until, at the age of 65, he had his first psychedelic experience. He left his home in Vancouver, Wash., to take part in an experiment at Johns Hopkins medical school involving psilocybin, the psychoactive ingredient found in certain mushrooms. Scientists are taking a new look at hallucinogens, which became taboo among regulators after enthusiasts like Timothy Leary promoted them in the 1960s with the slogan “Turn on, tune in, drop out.” Now, using rigorous protocols and safeguards, scientists have won permission to study once again the drugs’ potential for treating mental problems and illuminating the nature of consciousness. After taking the hallucinogen, Dr. Martin put on an eye mask and headphones, and lay on a couch listening to classical music as he contemplated the universe. “All of a sudden, everything familiar started evaporating,” he recalled. “Imagine you fall off a boat out in the open ocean, and you turn around, and the boat is gone. And then the water’s gone. And then you’re gone.” Today, more than a year later, Dr. Martin credits that six-hour experience with helping him overcome his depression and profoundly transforming his relationships with his daughter and friends. He ranks it among the most meaningful events of his life, which makes him a fairly typical member of a growing club of experimental subjects “It was a whole personality shift for me. I wasn’t any longer attached to my performance and trying to control things. I could see that the really good things in life will happen if you just show up and share your natural enthusiasms with people.” CLARK MARTIN, a retired psychologist, on his participation in an experiment with a hallucinogen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This belongs on the main board. What with being about detachment from reality and treating depression and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 mushrooms are AWESOME, aside from never being over when you want them to, but other than that they are great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 It was a whole personality shift for me. I wasn’t any longer attached to my performance and trying to control things. I could see that the really good things in life will happen if you just show up and share your natural enthusiasms with people.” CLARK MARTIN, a retired psychologist, on his participation in an experiment with a hallucinogen this has been my personal experience with them as well. while under the influence, it lets you just appreciate things more. the wind blowing through the leaves on the trees not only looks beautiful, butreminds you that there are bigger and more powerful forces than yourself at work in the universe, and if you can just stop and appreciate what is around you for it's true beauty than you will instantly be much happier and content with life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 This belongs on the main board. What with being about detachment from reality and treating depression and all... Through my experiences and from what I have observed, people who have tried psychedelics are generally people that live their lives happier. I don't know if it is the drug or if it is the movement/ambience that can be attributed to this, but this is something that from my perspective is quite evident. There is no doubt from my POV, that psylocibin mushrooms have allowed me to mentally experience things from a different psychoanalytic paradigm. That's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrojanitor Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 mushrooms are amazing. i'm able to handle life for a good 2-3 months afterwards. and man, I got that high octane lose your insurance type depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 There is no doubt from my POV, that have allowed me to mentally experience things from a different psychoanalytic paradigm. That's just me Being mentally ill does the same for me. Trade ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Being mentally ill does the same for me. Trade ya... Well, you are kinda smart, but I think I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Mushrooms are great. Unlike a lot of other stuff (coke, heroin, alcohol, cigarettes, even pot in some cases), I've never heard "Yeah man, mushrooms ruined my life." Non-addictive, usually not a negative trip, good stuff. But hey, it's just another substance that the government arbitrarily decided we can't handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB27 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 You guys all realize that you are admitting to using ILLEGAL narcotics right? I hope you never apply for a job that requires a clearance / background investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 You guys all realize that you are admitting to using ILLEGAL narcotics right? I hope you never apply for a job that requires a clearance / background investigation. a rolling LOL at the idea of my posting on a Bills board as DrDankenstein will ever come back to haunt me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 You guys all realize that you are admitting to using ILLEGAL narcotics right? I hope you never apply for a job that requires a clearance / background investigation. Dude, what's your problem maan? We're just, ya know, talkin and stuff. Chill out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB27 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dude, what's your problem maan? We're just, ya know, talkin and stuff. Chill out All of this testimony about how great they are, you all forgot about how illegal they are and posted that you use them on a public bulletin board. Just wanted to make sure you all know what your doing in your altered mental states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 a rolling LOL at the idea of my posting on a Bills board as DrDankenstein will ever come back to haunt me. Wait... you're name's not really Doctor Dankenstein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB27 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 a rolling LOL at the idea of my posting on a Bills board as DrDankenstein will ever come back to haunt me. It isn't that hard to figure out who DrDankenstein is you know. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 All of this testimony about how great they are, you all forgot about how illegal they are and posted that you use them on a public bulletin board. Just wanted to make sure you all know what your doing in your altered mental states. That reminds me...I did NOT hit my wife, she gave herself that black eye. Hit herself with a broom handle. Seriously...woman's a klutz. Just wanted to get that on record...y'know, in case it ever comes up in a background check... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 All of this testimony about how great they are, you all forgot about how illegal they are and posted that you use them on a public bulletin board. Just wanted to make sure you all know what your doing in your altered mental states. i can appreciate your concern for fellow posters, but it would be very difficult for anyone to prove this post was actually me, even if i admitted it was my user name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 All of this testimony about how great they are, you all forgot about how illegal they are and posted that you use them on a public bulletin board. Just wanted to make sure you all know what your doing in your altered mental states. Oh ya? tell that to Dr. Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 It isn't that hard to figure out who DrDankenstein is you know. Just FYI. ill admit im drdankenstein. now prove that this post was typed by me. even if it came from my home network. which it didnt. nor did it originate from my work's network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 i can appreciate your concern for fellow posters, but it would be very difficult for anyone to prove this post was actually me, even if i admitted it was my user name. You might be surprised. Both at how difficult it isn't, and how much "proof" is required in a background check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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