Last Year, There Were 12 TVs in the Freaking Weight Room!!&#33

[Max997]

Televisions in the weight room of a pro team are SO WRONG!!

 

why is that exactly?

 

so guys want to watch TV while they are walking on a treadmill, SO WHAT, who freaking cares

 

SO WRONG, you have to be kidding me

[Doc]

Ten TV's is the limit. The Ravens went hardcore with just 8, while the Bills went overboard with 12.

[erynthered]

Tim Tebow doesnt watch TV, he eats TV's for lunch!!

[Endless Ike]

Yet another tempest in a tea cup.

 

if these guys had the desire to push themselves as hard as possible, it wouldn't matter if Cirque de Sole was !@#$ing performing 4 times a week in the weight room...they'd get it done.

 

IF they don't give a ****, then it doesn't matter whats going on down there.

 

Don't blame the tools, blame the carpenter. The fact of the matter is, having the TVs gives the guys an excuse to not leave the weight room because some march madness game is coming down to the wire...they can check out hte score between sets or whatever.

[StamerforPrez]

Bills fans must really be searching for something to talk about to get all worked up over TV's in the weightroom. I think it's a good move taking them out just to send a message that things this year are going to be different.

 

I hear trent only works out on the dance, dance revolution machine in the arcade part of the weightroom.

[Thurman#1]

Window dressing. You have no idea of what was going on in the weigh room during Jauron's tenure nor what's going to happen with training & conditioning under Gailey, other that the TVs are gone.

 

 

Um, read the articles. It makes some changes very clear.

[Thurman#1]

What's wrong with TVs in the weight room again? It's pretty boring work, so what harm is there to watch TV while you do it.

 

 

Bottom line, it's distracting.

 

Weight-lifting requires an extreme focus, particularly at the level these guys are at.

 

I hate TVs in weight rooms, and I don't make my living through my phyisical abilities like these guys do. The thing about TV is that you stare at it. Which prevents you from visualizing the next lift, going over your goals, ....

 

I'm at the point where I sometimes wear earplugs at the gym, myself, and these guys are being paid to lift weights.

[StamerforPrez]

Bottom line, it's distracting.

 

Weight-lifting requires an extreme focus, particularly at the level these guys are at.

 

I hate TVs in weight rooms, and I don't make my living through my phyisical abilities like these guys do. The thing about TV is that you stare at it. Which prevents you from visualizing the next lift, going over your goals, ....

 

I'm at the point where I sometimes wear earplugs at the gym, myself, and these guys are being paid to lift weights.

Visualize before you lift?? Going over your goals?? Ear plugs?? You sound like one of those grunters at the gym who wear tank tops and walk around with a gallon of water while chomping on a protein bar

[SawchukBills]

Did you see this article from the front page? http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/03/30/1004...-weightier.html

 

And here's another one: http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/201...m-overhaul.html

 

I STILL can't get over it!!

 

Reports differ over whether the 12 TVs were on the walls of the weight room or whether some were in the locker room, and I've also seen reports that five of the TVs were on the front panel of treadmills.

 

But I don't freaking care.

 

Televisions in the weight room of a pro team are SO WRONG!!

 

Thank God Alllare is gone, though it's hard to know how much was Allaire and how much was Jauron.

 

I've been saying for months that three years in a row of huge amounts of injuries isn't coincidence, that something was wrong with the S&C program. Here's the evidence!

 

EDIT: Sorry, I tried to delete this thread when I realized that I couldn't see the video linked in the "NO MORE CLUB MED" thread. If that video goes over the same ground, I'd suggest that you use that thread.

 

Very surprising. But I for one am glad that things are changing. Gailey is implementing a new "get serious and work" at OBD and I like it!

[Thurman#1]

Baltimore Ravens New Facility

 

Raven's new facility. State of the art, with a golf course, video games, spa and gasp at least 8 tvs in their weight room. One of the toughest and hardest hitting teams in the league. In fact, those facilities help bring in FAs as well.

 

But, the TVs are why the Bills haven't been in the playoffs. Got it.

 

 

 

Could you just quickly look over my posts and see where I said "the TVs are why the Bills haven't been in the playoffs"? I'll wait. ... ... Oh, I didn't say it? You were just vibing? Got it. We didn't make the playoffs because we didn't have the personnel to make the playoffs.

 

The Ravens have TVs? Do they also have Ray Lewis in their locker room? Well, when we get Ray Lewis or a leader of his stature, then maybe we should allow the players to have a spa atmosphere. Think Lewis lets the players screw around in the weight room?

 

I don't care what the Ravens have in their weight room. I want a facility that gets the players in the best possible shape, and that means you focus during the lifts and you focus between them, and that is not helped by having TVs in the room.

[MattyT]

I heard they contacted a local butcher about providing them with several cow carcasses to hang from the ceiling and punch.

[Thurman#1]

Big noise over nothing. This is just PR spin coming out of one Bills drive. There are TV's all over the gym I go to. If you are into what you are doing they just blend intro the background. The bigger issue is what are you doing and what are you being coached to do.

 

 

Do you get paid hundreds of thousands a year to lift weights?

 

Yeah, TVs are all over most gyms in America. And most gyms in America are filled with people farting around, talking, watching TV, and not getting much stronger. Most gyms in America are filled with fat people, and people who are generally out of shape.

[Captain Hindsight]

why is that exactly?

 

so guys want to watch TV while they are walking on a treadmill, SO WHAT, who freaking cares

 

SO WRONG, you have to be kidding me

Maybe we should have them read a playbook or have Trent watch a real quarterback

[Thurman#1]

Yet another tempest in a tea cup.

 

if these guys had the desire to push themselves as hard as possible, it wouldn't matter if Cirque de Sole was !@#$ing performing 4 times a week in the weight room...they'd get it done.

 

 

Design matters. It matters a great deal. It's the reason most public spaces look like they do. Why do casinos not have clocks or lots of doors? Because design matters. Why are hospital walls not pained bright red? Because design matters. Why are hundreds of books written on how to design stores so that people will buy? Because design matters. Surroundings matter, and if you're serious, you provide an atmosphere that is likely to maximize player effort in the weight room.

 

 

The fact of the matter is, having the TVs gives the guys an excuse to not leave the weight room because some march madness game is coming down to the wire...they can check out hte score between sets or whatever.

 

 

Yeah, don't TIVO the games you want to watch. Keep up with them while you do your weights. Three weeks later, you're checking up on what's happening on "The Hills" and "Gilmore Girls" while you lift.

[SlamnSam]

What's wrong with TVs in the weight room again? It's pretty boring work, so what harm is there to watch TV while you do it.

 

Focus is what makes the difference in the weight room, not being entertained.

[Red]

Guys were breaking their arms, legs and otherwise getting injured because there were TVs in the weight room?

 

I say they should just cut it down to one 25" Zenith up on some cinder block-wood plank stand. And have it tuned to PBS all times. That would be real old school. Guys would get the message about how important lifting weights in season is.

 

 

Mr. WEO,

 

I don't know what your lifestyle may be. And this is in no way intended to be an insult. But if you've never set foot in a gym, and never lifted a weight in your life to train for an athletic event, then it would best if this was something one did not comment on.

 

As someone who not only has competed in bodybuilding contests but also played football AND is finishing up a Masters degree in Phys Education, I know a thing or two about lifting, muscular development, training, etc.

 

There are differing philosophies out there about training. One only need turn on their television late at night to see the plethora of different equipment, routines, diets, etc all claiming to be the one to fix your spare tire! FAST!

 

Likewise, as someone who has been training for several years and lived in several states, I have been and seen all kinds of approaches. There is a big difference between a World Gym or a Gold's Gym (or else there used to be- things are slowly changing for the worse) and a Bally's, or a BAC.

 

Now, someone not familiar with training might just be sitting there in his pizza stained T-shirt, scratching his butt and thinking "it's all just weights, ain't it?"

 

Perhaps the 1 word I can share that might bring this into perspective for you is Attitude. Some gyms are glorified spas. Bally's used to remind me of this. You have the nice designer workout gear, shiny new weights, actual gym policies that frown or even prohibit true building exercises like deadlifts or power cleans, and oh...what a social club it is. No one's sweating. People reading the freakin' newspaper while supposedly lifting weights. You don't go there to lift, you go there to talk and meet others.

 

But some gyms are dungeons. Nothing shiny here. Sweat, grime, grunting, and pumping are the order of the day. Encouragement, hard work, pushing past limits rule the day. You can save the social stuff for the singles web sites, thank you very much. That's why I always loved the Fitness Factory in Kenmore.

 

Now, which one do you suppose is going to produce the best results?

 

Hard work and hustle, or a bunch of posers going through the motions?

 

The attitude in a gym can make or break you. Heck, don't listen to me. Listen to the current Governor of California when he talks about choosing the right gym: "In the last 14 years I've found some gymnasiums I've felt incredibly good in- where I immediately got good vibrations and a sudden flow of energy because of the way they looked- and other gymnasiums that depressed me as soon as I walked through the door. I especially don't like the kind of gym that gives a sense of relaxation." (emphasis mine)- Arnold The Education of a Bodybuilder

 

For the Buffalo Bills, Chan Gailey has it right in today's article. The TV's were a distraction. A weight room needs to be about work. If you want to win and achieve your goals, it takes sweat, hustle, and plenty of grit. If the weight room is somewhere nice that you go to "hang out"...then it is not set up for the right purpose.

 

And if the other teams in the league are busting their rumps to get better, and you are using the weight room as a glorified resort, I can now understand where some of these injuries came from for the past few years.

[Max Fischer]

I thought this was very clever and funny. However, I remembered this was a fan board and you were serious.

[erynthered]

Mr. WEO,

 

I don't know what your lifestyle may be. And this is in no way intended to be an insult. But if you've never set foot in a gym, and never lifted a weight in your life to train for an athletic event, then it would best if this was something one did not comment on.

 

As someone who not only has competed in bodybuilding contests but also played football AND is finishing up a Masters degree in Phys Education, I know a thing or two about lifting, muscular development, training, etc.

 

There are differing philosophies out there about training. One only need turn on their television late at night to see the plethora of different equipment, routines, diets, etc all claiming to be the one to fix your spare tire! FAST!

 

Likewise, as someone who has been training for several years and lived in several states, I have been and seen all kinds of approaches. There is a big difference between a World Gym or a Gold's Gym (or else there used to be- things are slowly changing for the worse) and a Bally's, or a BAC.

 

Now, someone not familiar with training might just be sitting there in his pizza stained T-shirt, scratching his butt and thinking "it's all just weights, ain't it?"

 

Perhaps the 1 word I can share that might bring this into perspective for you is Attitude. Some gyms are glorified spas. Bally's used to remind me of this. You have the nice designer workout gear, shiny new weights, actual gym policies that frown or even prohibit true building exercises like deadlifts or power cleans, and oh...what a social club it is. No one's sweating. People reading the freakin' newspaper while supposedly lifting weights. You don't go there to lift, you go there to talk and meet others.

 

But some gyms are dungeons. Nothing shiny here. Sweat, grime, grunting, and pumping are the order of the day. Encouragement, hard work, pushing past limits rule the day. You can save the social stuff for the singles web sites, thank you very much. That's why I always loved the Fitness Factory in Kenmore.

 

Now, which one do you suppose is going to produce the best results?

 

Hard work and hustle, or a bunch of posers going through the motions?

 

The attitude in a gym can make or break you. Heck, don't listen to me. Listen to the current Governor of California when he talks about choosing the right gym: "In the last 14 years I've found some gymnasiums I've felt incredibly good in- where I immediately got good vibrations and a sudden flow of energy because of the way they looked- and other gymnasiums that depressed me as soon as I walked through the door. I especially don't like the kind of gym that gives a sense of relaxation." (emphasis mine)- Arnold The Education of a Bodybuilder

 

For the Buffalo Bills, Chan Gailey has it right in today's article. The TV's were a distraction. A weight room needs to be about work. If you want to win and achieve your goals, it takes sweat, hustle, and plenty of grit. If the weight room is somewhere nice that you go to "hang out"...then it is not set up for the right purpose.

 

And if the other teams in the league are busting their rumps to get better, and you are using the weight room as a glorified resort, I can now understand where some of these injuries came from for the past few years.

 

+1000

Nice post and spot on!!

[Thurman#1]

Bills fans must really be searching for something to talk about to get all worked up over TV's in the weightroom. I think it's a good move taking them out just to send a message that things this year are going to be different.

 

 

I guess it wouldn't make a huge difference to me either if we hadn't seen what the previous regime's weightlifting philosophies had led to. We led the league in guys on IR in 2007 and 2009 and were close in 2008. And it wasn't a result of smaller guys, because the other teams with smaller guys, the Colts, The Bears, the other Cover Two defenses simply didn't have significant injury problems, nothing approaching ours.

 

Something was wrong in that weight room, and TVs would have been the first thing to go under Thurman#1's regime. Of course, the second thing to go would have been Thurman#1 ... I'd have brought in an NFL S&C guy with proven results. What Gailey did with bringing in two guys seems interesting to me, though I'd rather have two guys with extensive pro experience. But changing a culture that is broken isn't a cosmetic change, it's an important step.

 

I'm out of here, I've said what I have to say.

[Thurman#1]

Mr. WEO,

 

I don't know what your lifestyle may be. And this is in no way intended to be an insult. But if you've never set foot in a gym, and never lifted a weight in your life to train for an athletic event, then it would best if this was something one did not comment on.

 

As someone who not only has competed in bodybuilding contests but also played football AND is finishing up a Masters degree in Phys Education, I know a thing or two about lifting, muscular development, training, etc.

 

There are differing philosophies out there about training. One only need turn on their television late at night to see the plethora of different equipment, routines, diets, etc all claiming to be the one to fix your spare tire! FAST!

 

Likewise, as someone who has been training for several years and lived in several states, I have been and seen all kinds of approaches. There is a big difference between a World Gym or a Gold's Gym (or else there used to be- things are slowly changing for the worse) and a Bally's, or a BAC.

 

Now, someone not familiar with training might just be sitting there in his pizza stained T-shirt, scratching his butt and thinking "it's all just weights, ain't it?"

 

Perhaps the 1 word I can share that might bring this into perspective for you is Attitude. Some gyms are glorified spas. Bally's used to remind me of this. You have the nice designer workout gear, shiny new weights, actual gym policies that frown or even prohibit true building exercises like deadlifts or power cleans, and oh...what a social club it is. No one's sweating. People reading the freakin' newspaper while supposedly lifting weights. You don't go there to lift, you go there to talk and meet others.

 

But some gyms are dungeons. Nothing shiny here. Sweat, grime, grunting, and pumping are the order of the day. Encouragement, hard work, pushing past limits rule the day. You can save the social stuff for the singles web sites, thank you very much. That's why I always loved the Fitness Factory in Kenmore.

 

Now, which one do you suppose is going to produce the best results?

 

Hard work and hustle, or a bunch of posers going through the motions?

 

The attitude in a gym can make or break you. Heck, don't listen to me. Listen to the current Governor of California when he talks about choosing the right gym: "In the last 14 years I've found some gymnasiums I've felt incredibly good in- where I immediately got good vibrations and a sudden flow of energy because of the way they looked- and other gymnasiums that depressed me as soon as I walked through the door. I especially don't like the kind of gym that gives a sense of relaxation." (emphasis mine)- Arnold The Education of a Bodybuilder

 

For the Buffalo Bills, Chan Gailey has it right in today's article. The TV's were a distraction. A weight room needs to be about work. If you want to win and achieve your goals, it takes sweat, hustle, and plenty of grit. If the weight room is somewhere nice that you go to "hang out"...then it is not set up for the right purpose.

 

And if the other teams in the league are busting their rumps to get better, and you are using the weight room as a glorified resort, I can now understand where some of these injuries came from for the past few years.

 

 

 

Red, you and I have some major disagreements on some Bills-related issues, but on this one, we're kindred spirits.

 

Excellent post.