silvermike Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 " Leslie Frazier is leader in Buffalo, but 4 or 5 more to interview. Brian Schottenheimer is one. Mike Zimmer is not." Leader among himself and Perry Fewell, presumably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfw1234 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 " Leslie Frazier is leader in Buffalo, but 4 or 5 more to interview. Brian Schottenheimer is one. Mike Zimmer is not." Leader among himself and Perry Fewell, presumably? Thanks Buddy "4 more years!!" "4 more years!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphW Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 its happening again. Big talk about GM's and Big Name Coaches. Nope - a 70yr old first time gm named Buddy and giving another coordinater his first hc gig. Same cash to the cap bull ****. So typical. I feel like an idiot for getting sucked in again and thinking things were going to change for real this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I dont understand why everybody is so down on this guy? What the hell did Bill Cowher do that was so special...besides win 1 Super Bowl in a dozen+ years in Pittsburgh, sit out the last couple years, and get lucky that Roethlisberger fell to him? I would bet Cowher AND Shanny...AND Schottenheimer SR. will ALL fall on their faces, like Joe Gibbs did when they come back. The game is starting to pass them by. Mike Tomlin, Ken Whisenhunt, Harbaugh...they are all coordinators doing it the right way. I had a post about this a while back, and now I cannot find it...but like 80% of the teams have guys who have come in as a "HOT COORDINATOR" and have completely turned things around for said team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 " Leslie Frazier is leader in Buffalo, but 4 or 5 more to interview. Brian Schottenheimer is one. Mike Zimmer is not." Leader among himself and Perry Fewell, presumably? The "slow" HC search, IMO, is due to the Bills waiting for Minnesota to get out of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cowher Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Frazier = another ex nfl cornerback who is laidback and runs the tampa 2. Sound like anyone to you? WHAT A JOKE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 its happening again. Big talk about GM's and Big Name Coaches. Nope - a 70yr old first time gm named Buddy and giving another coordinater his first hc gig. Same cash to the cap bull ****. So typical. I feel like an idiot for getting sucked in again and thinking things were going to change for real this time. Except this time, there's no Levy or TO they can bring in to sell tickets. Their hire at HC will dictate season ticket sales. Frazier's a nice guy, but they know Nix isn't going to keep ST's in the 55k range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Frazier = another ex nfl cornerback who is laidback and runs the tampa 2. Sound like anyone to you? WHAT A JOKE!!! Yeah, I dont want somebody cut from the Mike Tomlin tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cowher Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Yeah, I dont want somebody cut from the Mike Tomlin tree. MIKE TOMLIN is freakin far from laidback!!! You ever hear of a guy named dick jauron? when he looks in the mirror he sees leslie frazier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I dont understand why everybody is so down on this guy? What the hell did Bill Cowher do that was so special...besides win 1 Super Bowl in a dozen+ years in Pittsburgh, sit out the last couple years, and get lucky that Roethlisberger fell to him? I would bet Cowher AND Shanny...AND Schottenheimer SR. will ALL fall on their faces, like Joe Gibbs did when they come back. The game is starting to pass them by. Mike Tomlin, Ken Whisenhunt, Harbaugh...they are all coordinators doing it the right way. I had a post about this a while back, and now I cannot find it...but like 80% of the teams have guys who have come in as a "HOT COORDINATOR" and have completely turned things around for said team. Cowher is a good coach, but you hit the nail right on the head. People need to get off the Cowher or Bust bandwagon, or they are going to be highly disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Frazier = another ex nfl cornerback who is laidback and runs the tampa 2. Sound like anyone to you? WHAT A JOKE!!! Yeah...Tony Dungy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cowher Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yeah...Tony Dungy. YEAH A COMPETE FAILURE UNTIL PEYTON MANNING WAS HIS COACH!. i guess the colts coach this year should go right into the hall of fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldstorage5 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Lets just say it: Its because he is black. They dont want a black HC. I dont care, I want a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 YEAH A COMPETE FAILURE UNTIL PEYTON MANNING WAS HIS COACH!. i guess the colts coach this year should go right into the hall of fame The Colts and Manning where losers before Dungy took over in 2002. Dungy has 1 losing season his entire coaching career and that includes his days in Tampa Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 YEAH A COMPETE FAILURE UNTIL PEYTON MANNING WAS HIS COACH!. i guess the colts coach this year should go right into the hall of fame A complete failure who was 54-42 with four playoff appearances and only one losing season in six years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldstorage5 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 The Colts and Manning where losers before Dungy took over in 2002. Dungy has 1 losing season his entire coaching career and that includes his days in Tampa Bay. Colts went 13-3 before Dungy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 How do you expect fans to react given our history? Retread Head Coaches: Jauron - Failure Phillips - Playoffs Levy - 4 Super Bowls Knox - Playoffs Saban - AFL championships Coordinators or position coaches who were first time NFL head coaches given the job: Greggo - Failure Mularkey - Failure Bullough - Failure Stephenson - Failure Ringo - Failure Since Saban's second stint, the Bills have had 10 head coaches. 0% of the coordinators have made the playoffs. 80% of the retreads have made the playoffs. Give me the retread any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphW Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I dont understand why everybody is so down on this guy? What the hell did Bill Cowher do that was so special...besides win 1 Super Bowl in a dozen+ years in Pittsburgh, sit out the last couple years, and get lucky that Roethlisberger fell to him? I would bet Cowher AND Shanny...AND Schottenheimer SR. will ALL fall on their faces, like Joe Gibbs did when they come back. The game is starting to pass them by. Mike Tomlin, Ken Whisenhunt, Harbaugh...they are all coordinators doing it the right way. I had a post about this a while back, and now I cannot find it...but like 80% of the teams have guys who have come in as a "HOT COORDINATOR" and have completely turned things around for said team. Cowher is like 20yrs younger then those guys bro. I do agree with some of your points....Cowher only the one superbowl and us Bills fans think he walks on water. I think its his style/swagger that we all want so much. As far as hot cooridnater see Mularkey and Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 What bothers me about Frazier is that they're saying he blew Buddy Nix away in his interview. IIRC, Gregg Williams blew TD away in his interview too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 YEAH A COMPETE FAILURE UNTIL PEYTON MANNING WAS HIS COACH!. i guess the colts coach this year should go right into the hall of fame He turned Tampa from a loser into a playoff team and keep in mind Indy was 6-10 the season before he arrived. I guess Payton wasn't coaching to well before Tony got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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